Jazz for Two (2024)

I loved this series, despite the many imperfections. There are some violent and homophobic moments, but this is what school is like for some people. We always claim we want realism, and the bullying was pretty real. I owe it to the children subjected to this on a daily basis to watch to gain an understanding as to how they live.

The series should have been longer so they could resolve some of the plot holes, and explained why Jazz of all genres was the forbidden fruit. It also would have been nice if they had paid homage to some African American jazz legends such as Coltrane, Bird, Armstrong, Davis, Nat King Cole, etc. Jazz, Blues, Ragtime are all genres started by African-Americans in the early 20th century so why would Korean kids in the 21st century feel so connected? There must be a reason, but they didn't explore it. I'm not even that into music, and I think this should have been a 12 episode series to be more expository. Too many loose ends and we didn't even get to see the conversation between big bro Yoon and Taeyi.

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I will come back to add more of my coments on this show. Firstly, i feel like Song Han Gyeom carried this show. I liked his character a bit too much. This had a grat start but i felt like at ep 6 tat it went a bit off. Overall, i haven't watch muvh bls so i am nit that picky. I give this 7.5 bc i think it had a great start and i liked some parts. Also, when Song Han Gyeom kissed the other guy ( don't remember his name) out og nowhere, it was pretty random. As someone who haven't watch much bls, i think i will have give this bl a lower rating but bc of that scene i make the rating a bit higher .

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decent

the drama itself started out very strong and really captivates the audience. Even the little cameo is very cute!! sadly by the end of the show it sort of just feels very repetitive and boring almost. the last episode also felt so rushed like they fit an entire arch in that last ep. they definitely could have taken out some more pointless stuff to help put the overall arch in different eps too. I do think if you're gonna do more than one relationship at least don't give them all such similar situations / troupes. it felt like all 3 bl relationships had very similar troupes

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Not bad but not good too

it's just my opinion, I feel that the acting of the cast is enough and the plot is also good enough. But at the end I feel a little unsatisfied ((maybe because of the duration too)).

I'm quite satisfied with the acting of the actors. They didn't feel awkward and lived up to their respective roles. However, I feel that there are still some mistakes that I think the audience can tolerate. Like sometimes the actors have scenes that are a bit stiff and some are too fast. As I said before.

Maybe it's because the duration is not too long. But I'm quite satisfied because it's K-BL. I rarely find K-BL that is satisfying for me to watch. Some make me amused and some make me uncomfortable while watching the acting of the actors.

I hope in the future there will be more K-BLs that are good and the plot is also beautiful. Honestly I really like high school love stories like this. Innocent and full of curiosity. I hope the production house and actors will continue to develop in the future.

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A simple series that still somehow manages to break the mold

yk what? i really liked this!
i know the ratings really high but a lot of the comments kinda diss this but i think it had some great points and broke out of the mold a bit more than a lot of korean bls i've seen.

the points that i liked:

- Tae ti was a quiet, pessimistic and stubborn trope and he held it out. he really stuck to it and made a lot of plot points more difficult than it needed to be, but all in all it made it more realistic which a lot of types in that realm does not - they usually kinda go from hating and being pessimistic to a sun beam in one ep (like New Employee).

- i liked the back and forth of the couple. See heon didn't just lay flat down - well kinda but 'll come back to that.

- i liked that we got to see the couple together and acc in love.

- THE KISSING being an actual kiss at the end. a problem i've had with a lot of korean bls. i kinda thought after the first kiss that it would be the same but no! v nice surprise .

- LOVED the second couple so much and i wished we had more time with them. And i liked that they didn't just get together immediately but they kinda was just dating at the end - would've liked to see their 5 years later tho. im kinda a sucker for bully/ bullied couples (toxic traid from my side sry:/)

what i didn't like:

- the way that Tae He reacted after See heon kissed him.... they should've tackled that bc wtf was that? and the fact that See accepted it was kinda crazy:/

- The brothers story was not really my cup of tea but i see that it tied it all together nicely i just don't like love stories with a bad ending...:/

- what's up with Tae seeing so so so much of his brother in See but still wanting to be with him romantically?!!? kinda weird imo i feel like they could've made a crucial distinction at some point to make it less odd.

- The central plot line in the beginning was that See couldn't play jazz bc his dad didn't want him to, but it loses its form a lot and they just don't address it later really. it just seems odd that his whole life was planned from him but then he runs away when his dad finds out, and when he comes back he gets the most whatever "go to your room" from his dad and we never see the dad again? like what?


But overall a very good series and even though it's quite repetitive they still change it up to not make it boring - simple but good series

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tinha um potencial para ser algo maior

antes de assitir jazz for two eu não tinha exatamente grandes expectativas, o plot me pareceu interessante e achei que seria algo bacana de ser ver. realmente é, mas poderia ter sido mais.

vendo o oitavo episódio e como as coisas se desenvolveram nele, eu sinto que se a série tivesse seguido a mesma pegada nos outros 7 ela teria sido muito mais impactante. de um modo geral a série tem uma trama muito interessante, mas me parece que as camadas que envolvem essa trama foram feitas as pressas ou sem muito cuidado. o luto do taeyi assim como a relação do seheon com o pai são coisas que influenciam muito em quem eles são mas a impressão que eu tenho é que a série só quis mostrar que aqueles dilemas estavam ali e nada mais (o luto do taeyi em uma menor escala pois eu sinto que eles ainda se esforçaram para desenvolver), eu me peguei muito mais interessado no plot dos irmãos do que no romance dos protagonistas pois realmente senti falta de um desenvolvimento melhor. talvez isso tenha sido resultado do fator de que a série tinha muita coisa para se abordar e pouco tempo para desenvolver. eu sei que existe uma obra literária, mas como não li não consigo fazer o comparativo, mas talvez, com 10 minutos a mais nos 07 episódios anteriores ao 8° eles teriam conseguido criar algo mais marcante.

p.s. uma rápida menção aos personagens secundários que também tiveram um rápido desenvolvimento e depois desapareceram mas foram uns queridos nesse meio tempo!

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Has flaws, but overall a good watch

Unlike all the reviews hailing and praising the source material, I'm going to HEAVILY disagree with that.

If you have not read the webtoon and plan to, maybe come back to this after you've read that.

Anyway, despite some shocking scenes in this series, the way the story progresses is very in-tune to the life stages that the characters are in. They're all teenagers, in a highly homophobic world, and they're all in highly emotional situations. I prefer the story in the series, as the source material involves not only a very concerning power imbalance between an older man/married professor and a student, but also how extensively abusive Juha is originally meant to be.

The common complaint is that Taeyi was out of line in one scene the most, but his development and the rage he felt means he was going to explode and Seheon happened to be the one not only making his way into Taeyi's life, but the one that Taeyi felt was making him have to process his grief. Unless if you've lost someone extremely close to you, you won't understand the rage that takes over you and your rationality. Grief is never a clear and straight path, and you don't always move forward. Plus, he's an actual child in this and I think people are going in a bit too hard on him after having such a traumatic and tragic loss then having to process how someone has come into his life and makes him happy (something he tries to convince himself he doesn't want).

Then there comes the whole mess between Juha and Doyoon... I do not think Juha deserves any kind of sympathy if we want to use the source material. In the series there is at least room for some different type of conflict, but the webtoon only highlighted how bad of a person Juha was.

Because of this and the gross the situation between Taeyi's brother and Seheon's father, I don't agree that the source material is better. Even the progress of the relationships is lackluster in the webtoon but I think we had a good thing starting with the series adaptation and the changes/omissions that it had.

Still, until LGBTQ+ productions are taken seriously, given proper funding, and are seen as actual necessary media in South Korea (which they are), we are going to have to take things as they are able to be presented sometimes. I only say this lightly, because even productions like Love for Love's Sake managed to pull of most of the original source material or adjusted it to create a more condensed but still relatively loyal to the story series without sacrificing the queerness it is based on.

Jazz for Two had so much more potential, and it saddens me we could've had more, but I personally enjoyed it and most specifically the complexity of grief that this series gives an insight to. The only real flaws are that it needed a lot more time and better dialogue between characters. And although others want to see more from Juha and Doyoon, I'm okay with never seeing that come full-circle.

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preciso confessar, não tive interesse algum em assistir esse BL, porem engoli a força somente por ser uma fã de longa data do jinkwon (seheon).


Esse bl do mesmo jeito que tem muitos pontos positivos, ele tambem tem muitos pontoss negativos. mas, começando pelos pontos positivos:
Eu gostei da química entre os personagens, tudo parecia muito bem desenvolvido e todos tinham uma trama por tras (algumas bem ruins) mas isso gera aprofundamento e desenvolvimento de personagem, entao vc pode se indentificar ou se apegar pela historia. Além disso, eu gostei dos temas abordados, mesmo que de forma rasa, eu acho muito bom quando tem a presença de assuntos sérios como suicidio, terapia e medicamentos, oq foi bem presente na trama do taeyi.



porem, como nem tudo é feito de flores, vamos para os pontos negativos:

algo que me incomodou muito ao ponto de cogitar dropar a obra foi o simples fato de todos os personagens terem defeitos ABSURDOS. eu gosto de personagem "quebrado" que tenha um defeito ou outro, mas isso quando é sla um problema de comunicação ou uma insegurança e nao sobre ser um ASSEDIADOR. Eu fiquei extremamente incomodada com algumas cenas de assedio envolvendo o seheon, eu sinto que queriam passar a imagem de que ele era uma "garotinha" indefesa sofrendo assedio de um homem bonitinho e sinceramente isso me enoja. foi dificil eu voltar a gostar do taeyi depois da cena que ele passa a mão no seheon, eu achei isso um completamente desnecessario. Eu entendi a intenção de fazer como se ele estivesse negando a sexualidade e passando por dificuldades mas tem tantas outras formas de fazer isso... E o mesmo vale pro juha, que não so assediou o seheon como tambem violentou diversas vezes do doyoon, e ainda fizeram tudo parecer um mar de rosas com a paixonite obcessiva dele... isso pode parecer besteira e eu vou dar uma de militante aqui mas eu sinto que o público que consome bl nao se importa com essas problematicas por puro feitichismo... não vou me aprofundar nisso mas não vi ninguem reclamando sobre, então só quis comentar.


enfim, parando de reclamar, vamos para as considerações finais:

É realmente um bom bl, é bom pra discontrair, daquele tipo que voce assiste de tarde no fim de semana. é curtinho então da pra terminar bem rapido. Os personagens tem muitos defeitos e mesmo não gostando deles eu nao passo a odiar (mas por um momento eu odiei e muito) porem, eles tambem tem lados bons, o taeyi mesmo sendo a propria red flag, depois q ele começa a namorar o seheon ele acalma aquele c* dele e para de ser tao violento e mau humorado. se vc ignorar algumas cenas absurdas q faz vc querer pular da janela do seu quarto, é um bl bem fofinho, um romance basico entre um hiperativo e um mau humoradinho. É uma historia simples, aborda temas importantes mas não é nada taaao profundo e dificil de entender.
e gostaria de fazer uma menção honrosa as musicas q sao incriveis
e mais uma reclamação: achei um absurdo o jinkwon nao cantar na ultima performance, minha carreira de 6 anos de fa desse mlk nao aceita tamanha injustiça

enfim, essa foi minha humilde opniao, nada contra nenhum ator ou escritor, muito menos a qualquer outra pessoa q possa ler minha pequena critica.

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This is like Given but by South Korea

I will be very very short. This was giving me a very Given-ish vibe all through, I absolutely loved Given. And I like this too. Very nice cinematography, well chosen cast, nice music. But the actual plot, however nice, is very much undeveloped. Like This could have been a whole 12 episode series with 1 hour each and I would not have minded, but with such a short span and underdeveloped characters is what miffed me a lot.

Idk if there is any chance to remake this with more details, because this has potential, for all three couples (including the older bros) to show more.

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Flat. Couldve been so much better.

Went in with decent-good expectations as JFT had fairly high traction when it aired and I watched months after but that was my first mistake.

I’m all for a good simple plot but this drama was just very flat. For a good portion of the drama, it was just angst with minimal plot development.

2 of the ML are just mad for majority of the show and then 180 which I found funny.

One thing I really enjoyed and that is the music selection - the instrumental pieces fit the atmosphere really well and overall made me enjoy the drama a lot more.

Casting and cinematography is also done really well ; gorgeous actors with the visually appealing scenes almost makes up for the lack of plot depth.

Was surprised to discover Song Hangyeom (Seo Doyoon) was an idol as I found his acting really good (and I found him so goddamn handsome).

For what its worth, team did their best with what they had to work with. Solid drama for sure

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Tengo que dejar de esperar cosas de las adaptaciones de manhwas...

Como digo en el título, tengo que dejar de esperar que las adaptaciones de los manhwas que leo estén a la altura de mis espectativas... o tengo que dejar de ver las adaptaciones directamente.

En este caso, la serie hace un muy mal favor como adaptación, elimina contenido fundamental y a personajes necesarios para comprender la totalidad de los vínculos que se generan.

Ahora bien, si la juzgase únicamente como serie, me cuesta creer que los protagonistas sean tan importantes el uno para el otro cuando se tratan constantemente como si fueran mierda y pasan de una escena a la siguiente a adorarse. Sin intimidad, sin pasos medios, sin crecimiento....

Si les gustó la serie, léanse el manhwa, porfa. Y si no les gustó, léanse el manhwa, porfa.

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