Nevertheless, (2021)

Nevertheless, I was enthralled.

This was a story about a toxic relationship. One with both right and dark moments. Our main character, Na-bi, who just came away fro a bad relationship, sees the signs immediately that she shouldn't indulge in this situation, but there was something intoxicating about Jae-eon. There was so much raw sexual energy between them that you can see the pros of pursuing it. The show was immaculate in creating situations where you find yourself cheering for them; the interactions at Na-Bi’s home and at the club were instant YES’s for Jae-eon and Na-Bi. Jae-eon is basically a playboy (a f*ck boi would be appropriate for a mature drama such as this), so he knows exactly what to do and when to do it until he, himself, gets trapped into a situation where he starts to truly like Na-Bi but can't seem to stop his ways (meeting other girls, aggressive flirting). And when Na-Bi starts to drift away from him, his actions turn more vindictive and desperate. Those mesmerising eyes turn into awkward stares of that of a stalker. The scene on the ferris-wheel is when the wheels fall off, ironically. Na-Bi no longer felt comfortable with Jae-eon, preferring the lovely and adorable Do Hyuk. The descent from seductive to obsessive was a slow, thrilling one that had me along for the ride every step of the way. The main story isn't perfect however. We don't really know much about Jae-eon and his history. We only see glimpses of absent parents, odd relationships with ex-girlfriends. All done on purpose, obviously. But as Jae-eon’s character development is the main aspect of the story, we could've done with a fuller picture. The side plots were just as good. The relationship arcs of Bit-Na and Kyu-Hyun was arguably just as engrossing, with Bit-Na being similar to Jae-eon but more willing to change for her love. Likewise for Kyu-Hyun, who was Na-Bi except he was willing to say his thoughts and end the relationship when he felt tired. The LGBT elements with Yoon sol and Ji Wan were done nicely. At times, they can be forced and done to give the characters obstacles (Looking at Record of Youth), but it was done right. The writers did the plot proud.

I think this is a drama that goes against the usual K-Drama roads, so people will tend to criticise Jae-eon getting worse as a character, confusing it for bad storytelling when that's not the case. It's done differently and deliberately. Na-Bi doesn't really change as a character. You could criticise the writers for not making her go on some profound journey, and I guess I won't argue against that. We don't see enough of Yang Do Hyuk. And that's a shame because he was a great character, but I believe that was due to circumstances beyond anyone's control. And the ending. I haven't read the webtoon but apparently it stays true to it, so there is that. Is it the right choice? I don't really like saying yes or no because people feel how they feel. Gun to my head? I'll say that it wasn't. Nevertheless,

Leia Mais

nice movie, worth watching

Wow, I need to write fast because I'm impressed by the few reviews I've read.
A very beautiful film, delightful how the creators were able to "get close" to dilemmas, stresses, joys, young people at the stage of searching for love, searching for themselves, learning each other in relationships.

Na-Bi
What do we know about her ?: You can't see dad in her life at all,.Her mom used to hang out with a lot of hopeless guys. Na Bi, looking at her mother's love failures, she decides:
"When I was little. I promised myself I would never date while my mom". Of course, you can make a lot of decisions, but if you do not have a model of a happy relationship in your parents (guardians) as a child, you do not know what to do. Already in the first episode we see that Na Bi chose a guy in the style of her mom's guys. I don't blame her for that, I know it is, there is an automaton that is stronger than the resolutions. If in childhood, in the family home, love is mixed with violence, when we are looking for a partner, then the emotional matrix embedded in childhood pushes us into the arms of the torturer. Unfortunately, Na Bi's mum is still in the same place when dealing with guys, and farther and farther away from Na-bi. They see each other very rarely and their meetings are sad - there is no love for Na Bi.

Na Bi has a loving, warm, wise aunt, (great, great role, I'm delighted with this actress in this role).
When Na Bi is angry with herself, behind having sex with Jae Eon and she says, "There was nothing between us. I don't know why I did that."
S1: 06 24:57 My aunt said, "Hey, there is always something between people
Butterflies don't always eat honey. Insects and poop are all nutrients for them too.
Everything you're going through in your life right now, are your nutrients. So what's there to fear? "
Aunt is attentive and also sees clearly that Na Bi's relationship with Jae Eon is big. Na Bi, he listens to Auntie in conversations, but it seems that he hears nothing .

Jae Eon
What do we know about him? You don't see dad in his life at all. He has also lived without his mother since the age of 10, and it seems he rarely sees her. They meet at the hotel (sad) because mum has such a job, she is a dancer.
There are no relationship patterns, and like Na Bi, he has patterns of his own making. What he thinks about relationships we learn from his conversation with Kyu Hyun.
Kyu Hyun says what he expects in a relationship: "Certainly about the relationship and sincerity toward me".
Jae Eon said, "That's unrealistic. As soon as you have certainty, that relationship becomes weak".
He is in an open relationship with Seol Ah (they both know they have other partners too - such a deal) He is dating a lot of girls.
Oh, one more thing, his apartment is black, cold, sad, gloomy, dark, and it's not a minimalist, artistic style at all, and certainly not for lack of money.
Actually, we meet Jae Eon when he meets his mother.
When Jae Eon told her mom about Na-Be: "Just someone bothersome".
Of course, Mom knows her baby and says to Jae-Eon:
"You known what I regret the most? Not knowing my own feelings. No, pretending not to know. Who would love someone, who doesn't even take care of themselves?" (and all clear)

Two emotional cripples come together who have created invented rules of relationships in relationships.
It is obvious to everyone from the outside that it sparkles that they are made for each other, only they, each of them individually, cannot name their feelings and talk about them ..
Jae Eon in a relationship with Na Bii.
Cordial, attentive to needs, helpful in difficult and very difficult and embarrassing situations (S1: O2 35:21). They are not a couple yet, but they are handcrafted by a sun-butterfly catcher for Na Bi (he could have bought something because with money, no problem).
When he thought that Na Bi was so sick that she needed help and the door was closed, he called the police and an ambulance, he was terrified that he would not be able to help. He looks after Na Bi, at night he goes to the store, buys food and medication, she sleeps sitting with the patient all night holding her hand.

Sex and eroticism: Jae-eon signals her needs but never pressures, withdraws when Na Bi makes it clear that she doesn't want to. He always makes sure Na Bi wants what he wants.
When Jae Eon came with a book to study anatomy, he was honestly surprised to find alcohol on the table, but it seems Na Bi was thinking about sex.
In sex, he is sensitive, gentle, attentive and takes his time to satisfy his needs .. I think that there is a scene where he washes dishes and says that he will also do laundry, it's like this place on earth at Na Bi becomes his home and takes care of it.

Na Bi in relation to Jae Eon.
Already at the first kiss (she kisses him) she gives a signal that she does not mind Jae Eon's relationship with other women. First, she rubs another girl's lipstick from his lips and kisses him in a moment.
Constantly and still does not know how to name his feelings, love does not exist - such a slogan, is not sure what to do, blames himself for the feelings he finds in himself, blames himself for sex, sets himself up as a victim and stays in this role until the end, distrustful, suspicious. He does not talk about his fears, doubts with him, but with himself. He makes a deal with Jae-Eon, but constantly criticizes Jae Eon and looks for flaws in him. She becomes a torturer for herself.
When I look at her role in this relationship, she takes, she takes, but I don't see what she gives. Similarly in relationships with other guys, he takes, he takes, I don't see what he gives.

Just as she doesn't hear what Auntie is saying to her, she doesn't see Jae Eon changing koro for her step by step.
When Na Bi in S1 O7 53:43 says, "I, m the one who made a mistake", I was hoping she was starting to go her own way too, but you have to watch the end to find out.

Throughout the series, we have the opportunity to observe this couple and participate in changes in the relationship. For me, what is fascinating and I recommend it.

Leia Mais

I stayed up all night and woke up early anticipating the final release of the last episode, only to find that Netflix didn’t put it on right away. I probably wait till like midafternoon before I can finish it. I still have lingering thoughts of the what-ifs. There were a lot of sexual tensions to begin with but I enjoyed watching the cliché ending.

The Good:
I think this series did a pretty good job of portraying friends of benefits and the thin line of falling in love with them. I am probably one of the very few that was rooting for the bad-boy-falls-in-love-with-good-girl-leading-couple. Yes, I understand it was a toxic relationship with Jae Eon. He made our heart race, his intimate touches, he kept drawing the line but “nevertheless” Na Bi was still attracted to him. I have many theories as to why Jae Eon loves Na Bi, one being she called butterfly. We know where his obsession lies with it but as the series goes on you can’t help but think “cliché but oh dear, he is really falling for her”. Again, wondering theories and debates for another time.

I love this intimacy between them and I’m not talking about what they did every night. Their lingering looks and this burning passion they couldn’t hide were shown through a lot of non-gesture and both actor and actress brought it out very well. There was a lot of heart racing and exciting push-and-pull.

I also like how the writers incorporate Na Bi’s art as a reflection of what she felt during the emotional roller coaster ride. She did well on her projects when she got along with Jae Eon. But when her sculpture was smashed into pieces, it was like her world also shattered as she tried to end her feelings for him.

The cast, I didn’t know what to think with the innocent-looking Song Kang to begin with. I kept wondering how he was going to pull this “bad boy” character but he did it! It is different from what I usually am used to, but I like it! I also look forward to seeing more projects from Yang Hye Ji, Lee Ho Jung and Kim Min Gwi!

One of my favorite things to watch is character development. In this series, there were a lot of character developments between the leading couple and the side characters. I like how Na Bi narrated most of the series in the beginning and towards the end, Jae Eon started voicing his thoughts.

The Bad:
I had to skip some parts of the side characters, I felt like some of them were cliché and a lot of parts were cut out from Bit Na and Kyu Hyun. I didn’t realize the scandal with this until my sister told me. I was rooting and hoping to see more character development with Bit Na and Kyu Hyun. I think they were an adorable couple.

Personally, I was very bothered by that fake butterfly tattoo that looks like a stick on.

There were parts in the series where I had questions that were unanswered and probably will never be. Like who was that guy that randomly showed up and punch Jae Eon? And who was that girl he met at the café the following day? What about the story between him and his ex? I just found out this is based on a webtoon, maybe answers might be found there.

My rating: 8/10 Without watching this carefully I think there are a lot of symbolic things that could have been missed and I think that is what makes this series captivating to me. Even though it did have a typical storyline, each character was enjoyable to watch.

Re watch value: 4/10 – there were many things I love about this series, but I don’t know if I would be re-watching soon.

Leia Mais

Nevertheless

THIS IS A MOVIE. It is probably just me that like my movies to portray things that would rarely happen in real life. If you want something that is closer to reality, go watch documentaries or movies based on real events and stay away from fiction, please. So people in the reviews that are bashing it for being unrealistic, read tags or synopsis first and stop spoiling it for the rest of us.

That said, I'm not denying the toxicity of the relationship between the main leads. It is toxic but what most of us failed to notice (judging from the reviews) is how happy they both were when they were with each other, and isn't that what we all look for in a relationship? Happiness.

Maybe it will not be all roses down the road with their relationship and maybe they'll break up, but what touched me the most is the feeling of loving each other despite knowing the realities, the flaws that the other person has, especially Nabi loving Jaeon even when she knows Jaeon is wrong for her. This kind of love is my favourite kind of love to read or watch.

My favorite line from the movie, "LOVE IS NOT ABOUT FINDING THE NICEST PERSON, IT'S ABOUT FINDING THAT ONE SPECIAL PERSON TO YOU". This actually sums up the movie for me. <3<3<3

Leia Mais

Is love worth the risk?

Nevertheless (2021)

Likes:
1. I'm probably one of the minority who liked this drama and the ending. Give these kids a break. They are in college so they are still immature. And not everyone wants to be in a relationship, the same way that not everyone wants to keep dating. To each his own. What's important is the couple has to communicate and be honest with each other with what they want. Had Jae Eon and Nabi done that in the first place, we wouldn't have a story. Maybe they break up within the year. Or maybe they'll last a few years.
2. Love is a gamble. Who ever you choose , you just need to face the consequences or get out. I was fine whoever Nabi chose to be with, whether it's Do Hyeok or Jae Eon. Just like what the professor said. And as long as you're not hurting anyone.
3. A person can be super sweet in public but abusive in private. A bad person can also change with the right person. Let's not make judgements based on rumors or what other people say. Interesting to me that Jae Eon is made to be a bad guy bit why do Bitna, Sol, jiwan encourage Nabi to go out with him? Either they know the real Jae Eon is nice or they are lousy friends.
3. We as viewers plus all of Nabi's friends are commenting too much on their relationship, just like how we do with our own friends. I realized we should all mind our own business coz we don't know what's happening between them.
4. Best character for me is Kyu Hyun.
5. I also liked the OST.

Dislikes
1. Too much references on butterfly.
2. The second half dragged and were repetitive. 10 episodes could have been shorten to 8.
3. Wished we had more scenes with Jae Eon's pov so we actually get to know what and how he really feels.
4. Wished there were more scenes about their artworks.
5. I didn't like Jiwan and Bitna. Felt bad that Sol and Kyuhyun got stuck with them. I thought they deserved someone better but like i said, it's none of our damn business 😁

Rating: 8/10

Leia Mais

Painful and Beautiful

This drama absolutely killed me from the moment it started. The cinematography mixed with the music and plot, really gets in your feels. I know there are many people who didn't enjoy this show or just thought of it as average but for me, it left a gaping hole in my heart. I think what this drama does so painfully well, is present love in a modern and emotional way. It's not about the rich-guy-poor-girl dinamic that so many dramas tend to follow, it's about two people who have had painful pasts and don't know how to love others and to be loved anymore. Yu Na-Bi seems so defeated by life all the time but the unique relationship she forms with Park Jae-Eon makes her feel and hope again. She doesn't want the 'good guy' because she's experience that the 'good guy' could just as easily end up as the bad guy. Jae-Eon is himself from the beginning and doesn't promise to only commit to her but then cheat on her. He may seem like the bad guy but at least she knows what to expect. They need each other equally to grow, even if it is in their own f***ed up way.

Leia Mais

it's so boring!

honestly at this point, where I have watched like... millions of dramas but I've never seen such pathetic characters ever! I mean what the hell is wrong with Na-Bi?! Jae-Eon is clearly a walking, talking red flag but she can't see that? is love blind in such a pathetic amount??!! Just get a personality sweetheart! this is so annoying and painfully repetitive! at this point I wanna drop watching kdramas altogether! why can't they make more interesting dramas like Goblin or Memorist?! Also, even that dyed haired woman! she was a total b***h (pardon my language)!! both Bit-Na and Na-Bi were pathetic bitches. Song Kang's Sweet Home was way freaking better!

Leia Mais

I don’t like where it’s going

I feel like I should mention right off the bat that I do tend to have a bias against dramas based on webtoons, because they follow a very similar pattern that I don’t actually enjoy watching, but the premise of this one intrigued me and there are only a couple episodes available so far so I thought why not?

I don’t mind the first episode, it caught my attention at the start and managed to maintain it throughout from what I can remember. I was also very impressed with the female lead’s character and how she managed the break up (although completely giving up on love because of it felt a tiny bit extreme but I can at least understand her feelings), especially with how confident she was able to break it off and remain with herself afterwards. The male lead also seemed interesting, even though it was so obvious from the start to me what his character was going to be and how he was going to act later on. I was really happy when she left him and hoped that she wasn’t just going to let him do whatever he wants with her cause he’s charming, but unfortunately that seems to be exactly what happens in the second episode. I appreciate the different reaction of the main girl who knows she likes the main guy and even inadvertently shows it, instead of the typical female lead (not necessarily in kdramas) who hates them for no reason when they meet and the lead falls for them immediately because they’re “not like anyone else they’ve met before” cause their act doesn’t work on them. But it’s gotten to be so annoying how, because of her interest, she’s letting him get away with everything, and it doesn’t cause her to pull back from the situation at all - she says she’s going to after recognising one of the many, many signs that they’re not emotionally compatible and aren’t looking for the same things in a relationship, but then proceeds to talk and stare at each other long enough that they make out (or try to most of the time) and I can tell it’s only going to get worse from here.

I just realised there’s kind of a clue in the name “Nevertheless,” in that every bad sign she sees is met with defiance and the want to be with him no matter the obvious regret and pain that’s going to happen later. E.g “I’m not the only one. Nevertheless,” - title of Episode 2. So I guess if this was technically the inherent theme of the drama, I can’t judge it that badly, it’s just not for me.

Leia Mais

Realistic that it annoys me lmfao

Tissue Rate (aka how much I cried); I didn’t really cry, I was more frustrated then emotional for this drama

- I think this drama is really good at portraying how it feels to be in a relationship with someone who you deeply are connected with but it just doesn’t work. I think the acting was perfect, it made me feel anxious, annoyed but also mesmerize by how well the chemistry between Song Kang and Han So Hee.

- I LOVE LOVE LOVE this drama for including a bit of the LGBT+ community with Sol and Jiwan! I love those two so much! I think it was wonderful how their feelings came together in understanding that they actually like each other more than friends!

- The music is SO SO SO good!! Like I love the OST more than the actual drama lmfao!!

- Recommend if you want a realistic feel of a drama!

Leia Mais

I dont really watch ongoing dramas cause its not good for my EQ to wait a whole week before the next episode. And as much as I can, i stay away from spoilers and clips floating around the net just so I can appreciate the drama more in my own view. But with Nevertheless, I found myself browsing thru clips and reviews and I concluded its not going to be a happy ending judging from the toxicity of being with f*** boy. I started to watch it hours before the last episode was released so Id be able to avoid spoilers on the ending — and im glad i did.
I never read the webtoon nor do I care about it. A webtoon is a webtoon, drama is a drama. I read that the webtoon is more dramatic, darker, and realistic. But come on, out of 10 dramas you’ve watched, just how many are realistic? While finally watching Nevertheless, I could never see the bad on Jae Eon. His eyes are always full of warmth. His gaze towards Nabi was too different from his actions. When he met Nabi, I already felt he wants to change but continuously to avoid the fact that he does. If you read too much on other people’s ments, like the aunt’s talking to Nabi or Gyu hyun talking to Jae Eon, you would somehow know how this drama would end up. Thats why I became really hopeful. I could understand totally understand Nabi’s thoughts as to why she wants to stay away from Jae Eon as much as possible. In this open minded world that we live in, its really hard to find a person you can trust, love fully and unconditionally. You’d want to question their sincerity towards you - and obviously, Jae Eon showed zero sincerity at the start. But you know, Im really glad both of them tried to change. Nabi for going after what she really likes and Jae Eon letting go of his dark nature for Nabi. One thing I super loved about Jae Eon is he never forced himself to Nabi. He would always ask before doing anything and letting Nabi decide on their relationship. Like, how is that a f*ck boy? A f*ck boy would NEVER care about the girl’s feelings as long as he attains his goals. Im really satisfied with the ending. I couldnt get over the fact that the supposed f*ck boy would shed tears for the girl he thought he couldnt have. I repeated that scene too many times.

Some things I need explanation on - justification on SeolA’s character, i mean, she was just there to get Nabi jealous, and get Nabi to say, “Jae Eon likes doing IT with your hair tied.” Lol. Who was she to Jae Eon then? I was really curious. Also as to why Jae Eon loves butterflies too much and hates dating. Id really like some light on those points but Im guessing the webtoon touched on it, which I have no intention of reading.

Some thoughts of mine, Song Kang is not fit to play a playboy or a fck boy. He looks too nice. His eyes are really too innocent for something like this. Im kind of falling for him now. He’s gonna be my next oppa, but i think he’s going to the army soon. Also, i read about the webtoon’s ending prior to the drama’s ending. And honestly, I can’t stand the fact that Song Kang might not end up with the FL again — i was traumatized from Love Alarm. Song Kang deserves the FL. Lol.

Thats it for me, I loved it, and I dont give a damn to those people who hates this drama, and comparing it to the webtoon too much. Like wtf, cant you differentiate? They written by different writers for a reason.

Leia Mais

After all….

At the beginning I wanted this drama to be just like the ordinary cliche boy meets girl thing but as it progress the storyline becomes toxic to the point that I wanted to drop it. But, I stuck to it thinking that this would be a new perspective a glimpse of reality that not all relationships are healthy. Considering that they were in their early 20’s and in college the core should have been more on infatuation and moving on, learning from experiences. But unfortunately it ended just like any other cliche about love and fate and a happy ending.

After all it would have been something nice.

Leia Mais

Realistic modern day love; frustrating

This was my first Korean drama in awhile since I stopped around 2018, so it was refreshing to have something to watch and it be a Korean drama. Since, I watch mostly Chinese, Thai and Japanese. Also, this drama is not for the weak hearted.

Storyline/Plot: I really enjoyed the plot line since it was a realistic take on how love is in modern times. I really was happy that we finally have a drama like this since I usually see Japanese drama's convey social issues within their drama's. So, I wasn't expecting this drama to talk about something that happens in real life. I was hesitant to watch it since the synopsis didn't really stand out to me with how they described the drama. However, I was glad that I gave this drama a chance seeing I can relate to it. On the other hand, I hated how boring it got from episode 8 and onward. Which I had to drop the drama because it go boring and Nabi (FL), she just started to think so dumb. And it just became to hard to watch to the point I had to force myself to watch episode 8 which I stopped watching mid way. Furthermore, I don't like forcing myself to watch things and skipping either. Another thing is they started giving Nam Kyu Hyun (Kim Min Gwi) less screen time for something so dumb and petty (he cheated on his girlfriend and she exposed him for it). It left me uninterested with his and Bit Na's relationship since we couldn't see much of his face. Ji wan and Sol's relationship was annoying and not progressing as they both couldn't come to terms with whatever feeling's they had. All in all, all the couples including the secondary couples were boring and poorly written. The first half of the drama (episode 1-7) was good in my opinion and then it gets bad from there.

Acting /Casting: I liked both Song Kang and Han So Hee giving this is the first time I am watching a drama with the both of them. And the fact that they played both of their character's well. Also, I could say the same thing for the secondary actors and actresses as well.

Music: I don't talk about music much but I love the ost because it has such a chill vibe to it seeing that this is a youthful drama and it being taken place in college. It was really nice along with the aesthetics as well.

In conclusion: I won't be re watching this drama because it something I don't typically see myself revisiting due to it being so frustrating and its not exciting. Where as I could go back in time 5-10 years from now and be like "Oh! Look!, I remember when this drama came out, let's re watch!." for some happy memories and/or funny parts.

Leia Mais