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A protagonista é muito chata

Minha primeira resenha e só to escrevendo ela, pois fiquei indignada *SPOILER* com o tanto de macho atrás da Na-bi mesmo ela sendo uma pamonha.

Além de ser uma pamonha, ela é completamente indecisa, vi muitas pessoas falando que o protagonista é controlador/abusivo etc, contudo não achei nada disso, acho que o problema mesmo é a Protagonista. Ela desde o começo sabe que ele não se envolve, que ele tem fama de mulherengo, mas mesmo assim quer ficar com ele (ATÉ MESMO QUANDO VIU ELE BEIJANDO OUTRA NA PORTA DA CASA DELA). E quando ela realmente confirma que ele é mulherengo da um chilique sobre ele procurar ela quando ele quer, sobre ele não ser sincero, sendo que geral avisou para ela e ela sabia onde tava se metendo. Não satisfeita, Na-bi manda ele ficar longe dela, MAS ACHA RUIM QUANDO ELE FAZ ISSO.

Até no final do dorama, ela diz que nunca mais quer olhar na cara dele e quando ele vai embora para valer ela acha ruim dele não ter procurado ela, sendo que ele só estava realizando os desejos dela (DEPOIS DE TER PERCEBIDO E DEMONSTRADO QUE GOSTAVA DELA, COISA QUE ELA QUERIA DESDE O INÍCIO E ENCHEU O SACO A SÉRIE INTEIRA POR CAUSA DISSO. )

É claro que o protagonista teve seus defeitos, mas a Na-bi complicou a situação muito mais, ela pedia para ele ser sincero sendo que ela nunca era. Enfim, peguei ranço dela, muito pamonha e hipócrita. O dorama só valeu a pena pelos casais secundários.

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My first review for a show I do not appreciate.

The kdramas I watch I actually like most of them. This one is my first that I loathe. I think it's nonsensical, the writing is abysmal where our main woman lead is walking around miserable for the last like 4 episodes of a 10 episode series, and she decides to get with the man who made her miserable and says she knows he'll cause her pain but she'll do it anyways. I guess that's supposed to be deep, but... it isn't. Not even slightly.

I love Han Sohee and Song Kang but this wasn't it.

What I will give it props for is basically EVERY other character in this show besides our two leads are pretty enjoyable. I mean all of them, they are all just fun or cooky or interesting.

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Art University Coming of Age Story

I love how the cinematography captures the air and space of the various settings. The best kind breaths life into every shot without overtaking it, it's harmonious in the storytelling with the characters who are at the center of them. The tension and the chemistry between the main characters works really well because beyond just the physical attraction, they are navigating learning about themselves through their interaction with each other. I really love that the women in the series have sexual autonomy and aren't shamed for it nor is it exploitative. Both the women and the men get to be three dimensional people exploring life experiences of young adulthood. I really like how their art major is actually part of the story, they go to class and work on their art projects.

Nabi is pressured into sex by her older boyfriend that is a teacher at an academy and is implied to be a mentor if not her teacher at some point who is also controlling and uses her as his model for an explicit art that depicts her completely exposed in every way during an intimate act with her real name attached to it without her consent or knowledge for any part of it. She finally dumps him when another student clues her in that he's also cheating on her with his other academy students. This is her first relationship and a toxic one that she survived to be more wary. She enters a casual relationship with Jae Eon with eyes open as to his preference of not putting a label on their time together. She is fully aware and she gave it a try with consent. Ultimately she wants wants a relationship that is more concrete. I like that she goes out on a date with the freshman and recognizes while it's the regular feeling she enjoys she doesn't have the spark. It doesn't work out because he immediately chooses the girl he's had a crush on for years. Nabi realizes she's a rebound and it stings. He knew that he was her rebound too though when they went on their movie date and she rejected his kiss by laughing. Her high school bestie has the worst timing of everything, he didn't tell her his feelings because she was already with someone, which could be her creepy older first boyfriend. Maybe if he had confessed earlier, a romantic relationship between them might have had a chance. I like that Nabi comes to life in friendships with people and she has kept that spark despite what she had endured. She is no pushover either, when Seol Ah, one of Jae Eon's ambiguous non girlfriends girlfriends comes to campus to be territorial, Nabi tells her not to cut her hair because Jae Eon likes to do it with the hair tied up, that was spicy.

Jae Eon has always had a distant relationship with women beginning with his own mother who is a successful dancer always on the road. He's effortlessly charming and straightforward, but withholds giving away too much of himself which eventually becomes off putting to them women who were initially attracted to his looks. He's always had an obsession with butterflies, keeping a walkable terrarium of them in his apartment. Both Nabi and especially him are very middle class well off, being able to afford being art students with nice apartments provided to them without the struggle that their female TA has to find affordable living quarters. He first sees Nabi when she's in the agony of public humiliation at the exhibit of her creep ex-boyfriend. By chance he runs into her again at the bar and then at the school that he transferred to from a different major because he's legitimately talented in art. He's by all means attentive to her. He learns that his feelings for her is different that when he's with other people, he can't keep her at a distance, he wants to be with her and wants to put a label on the relationship for her. He's not a perfect guy, his jealously seeing her high school bestie show up near her apartment being the partial reason to lead him to this epiphany. When she's not ready, he does his best to help her to reassemble her final project that was smashed due to a freak accident at school, and tearfully keeps his word to leave her alone. That was a beautifully heart wrenching scene. They run into each other at the final project exhibition long after everyone has left. Jae Eon is there to see their finished work with out bothering her while unknowingly granting her wish to see him again. She acknowledges that there will be pain in their relationship. She doesn't idealize him or their relationship, but she's going to be with him.

While they were the most intense relationship in the show, they are partly mirrored by Bit Na, a free spirited person enjoys friendships with attractive men and casual dating as well who is akin to Jae Eon, so it's ironic that Bit Na was the one initially warning Nabi against him, while Kyu Hyun is like Nabi who wants to be treated as more than just a sex partner. Jae Eon asks Kyu Hyun's perspective to understand more of Nabi's point of view. While it's fair that he deserves to be treated better than just for sex, the show could have done a better job showing that he's not in the right to tamp down the rest of her personality. The relationship of the the TAs were very typical kdrama fare with co-habitation to development of romantic feelings. The lesbian storyline with the best friends to lover relationship would have been great if they had gotten even a measly romantic kiss. I really like that their gender was never in question and their realization was developed organically. They should have gotten that kdrama kiss.

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Que novidase Song Kang...

Que o song Kang so pega roteiro ruim n eh novidade mas dessa vez nem a Han So Hee conseguiu salvar. Eu juro nunca senti tanta raiva vendo algo. A unica coisa q salva eh que realmente eles tem muita quimica, se fosse um roteiro bom seria maravilhoso. Uma enrolaçao, mas retrata mt bem a realidade de que homens nao prestam. É bom pra quando vc ta sendo otaria pq vc se poe naquele lugar e ve o quanto vc eh otaria igual a Na Bi tirando isso n recomendo nunca eh horrivel sofri de raiva msm por ser tao ruim em tds os ep
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yeah....

nevertheless, i actually liked it.when this drama was airing i heard so many bad opinions, about the project in general and the characters/relationship. i watched the first episodes and then dropped it because i wanted to prioritize others dramas that i liked more, but than this year i thought "why not" and i enjoyed it, the acting its really good with all the actors and actress, the cast is good and the couples matched perfectly, they all had the chemistry needed. but there some things that i didn't liked, obsviously.of course all the couples had their problems, ji wan was incredibly dependant emotionally on sol, so much that it was annoying. it's ok to like someone like she liked sol, but she didn't want sol to live like a normal person, having other friends besides her, going in places without her like GURL what the hell, your friend/lover have a LIVE, she wanted sol to live for her and in any point the drama talked about this.well, so going further to the other couple, bit na and the bald guy, i hate her chatacter, i hated her personality, she was arrogant, greedy and didn't like gyung hun for what he was, she just wanted to go back with him because she saw she was losing him for good and i bet, people like her (and like jae eon) they don't change, its really hard for a person like them change so fast like they tried to show on this drama. and going to the our main couple, i liked their chemistry and i liked both of them, but not together and not as a couple. i couldn't be mad a na bi for once because i'm a borderline person, so i can't judge her for her attitudes, i did the same as her so many times, with so many boys, i put myself in so many ridiculous relationships because of my problem. i really did envolve myself with guys like jae eon, some worse than him so i saw myself on her so many times. it was really annoying seeing how he manipulates her so she would feel wrong to treat him the way he needs to be treated at (like the time she "broke up" w/ him) and the times the story makes us feel pity for him when he starts to "really" like her and notice that HE was wrong all the time, but like i said, people like him, guys or girls like him doesn't change quickly like they tried to show on the story. or not. because until the end she says "i'll regret being with you, but i'll still do", she knew that, she was aware of that but the lack of self love it was her ending, when someone with this lack of love like she has and i do meet someones that doesn't want to envolve themselves in a relationship and just want to hang out with everyone, this happens. jae eon was romanticized by her the whole time, she knew but couldn't get out of their relationship because she was traumatized by her last relationship, a toxic one, and she put herself in another toxic guy, because when u get out of one, its so easy to put yourself in another closed to the last, so yeah, i couldn't blame her.and what i liked the most about this k-drama was not just the aesthetic pleasantly sets, places and the art, but how realistic the drama is, even hating some characters sometimes, the relationships, the friendships and everything was so real, i saw their groupd of friends, their personalities, the bad things they do and i can see clearly my coleagues, my friends. thats the world, the yound adult world. so yeah, i liked the drama for that and i don't recommend to everyone. and besides everything i think its so easy to romanticize jae eon chatacter because of song kang, its a good looking guy (that hardly you'll meet in your real life hahah but yeah...). so 7/10 because the production is good, the cinematography is so good, the art, the aesthetic and everything about it was cool to watch :) and the OST is amazing, definitely going to listen day by day.

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a story that leads nowhere

the drama's story is not the best, but it could be a lot better if the script was better. the main couple (nabi and jae-eon) are literally the most boring characters, even so the side characters have more charm than them. nabi, initially, looks sane and all, but she's just SO confusing. to the point she looks kind of dumb, really dumb. she says to herself that she will not fall into jae-eon's tricks and later she changes her mind when he kisses her. there is no reason to why she likes him, he literally does something nice for her sometimes and that's it. his character is really annoying and touched her all the time, even when they just met, and it was a bit hard to watch them together because she looked too shy and uncomfortable. she knows that he's not committing to any closed relationship and it's sad about it, she knows he can't make her happy and still decides to stay with him at the end. he did a lot of bad decisions throughout the drama and said some manipulative things as well. at some point the two were unbearable to watch, they had no chemistry besides their physical attraction to each other. she just likes him because she finds him attractive, even though he's kind of a jerk and has no personality (except his quirky character trait of liking butterflies). she rarely looked really happy when she was with him, always with a distressed expression worrying if he's worth it. i don't understand the point in dating someone if you'll be worrying if they're a good person or not all the time and doubting them.
the good part of the show is the side characters. they have interesting and dynamic personalities that go well together and creates great chemistry. bit-na is very outgoing and social, she knows everyone. sometimes she was annoying but it's normal to have some defects. her actress made a good job incorporating the character. her boyfriend was ok too and they looked cute together (mainly towards the end). now, sol and jiwan; they're the best couple in the show, in my opinion. they're really cute and they seem really close (the actresses had so much chemistry and it didn't looked forced at all). their relationship is simple and adorable, and i liked pretty much every dialogue they had. sol was cute in every scene, her character is chill and she looked really natural all the time; she was kind of oblivious but it was cute. jiwan could be annoying sometimes but it's just the way she is, and she's really funny; sol likes her this way. their way of showing affection had me crying. sol is very subtle and kind, but she was always thinking about jiwan and doing something nice for her, even if it seemed small (getting her a plush of the character she likes, getting her candy, wrapping her with the blanket on a restaurant). she was just naturally attentive towards her. jiwan was always leaning towards her, too; but she showed it hugging sol and always taking care of her (even if it didn't look like it), she was easily jealous too but it was because she didn't know how to deal with her feelings for sol at first and was confused about it.
the other couples are fine too, the couple with the ones who both had glasses were so funny and really seemed like they were married. they had more chemistry and personality than the main leads.
to sumn-up, this drama was very hard to watch when the main characters were together on screen. it just got boring and they never had a great dialogue whatsoever. but when the side characters were on screen, it was very light-hearted and nice. do-hyeok and the other guy who also liked nabi were cute and they should've ended up with her, she was not as boring as she was with jae-eon.
also, towards the end, when jae-eon free his butterflies, i thought it would be a metaphor for him leaving nabi alone and acknowledging that he's not the best partner for her. but it was not and it was really just meaningless. the message of the drama is "even if someone is not making any good for you and actually making your life worse, if the person is attractive, it's ok" and nabi's life went downhill when she got to know him.

— story: 3/10; bad storyline that leads nowhere, really repetitive.

— acting: 7/10; it's good but didn't stood out that much.

— music: 3/10; really plain.

— rewatch value: 3/10; thanks to soljiwan moments.

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It’s not as bad as most reviews are making it seem!

This show is getting a lot of hate and bad reviews here, and I can see why. But I liked it. And I liked Jae Eon. Yes his character started out as womanizing and toxic, and yes he communication issues (like most drama couple leads lol). But he does change, noticeably, and obviously loves Nabi. I honestly disliked Nabi more. She also doesn’t communicate with Jae Eon, seems oblivious to his changes, and seems like she just wants a boyfriend no matter who. Everyone can say that Jae Eon is toxic for her but she’s just as toxic for him to me. She shows no faith in him, doesn’t directly ask him his feelings or what’s going on, and believes others without hearing from him.

My biggest complaint with this series is the characters were really under developed, especially Jae Eon. There’s obviously a back story to him, we get a couple hints but nothing is ever explained. They could have made this drama much better and made the ending much better by telling us the whole story of these main characters. While most might say it’s a happy ending the way they set it up just makes you so incredulous at Nabi that at least in my case I couldn’t understand her decision to date Jae Eon (even though I wanted them to end up together). The side characters in this were amazing and definitely elevated the series for me. Bit Na was a bit annoying though and I wish the LGBTQ couple got more storyline.

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Nevertheless is definitely one of the most-talked about K-drama here in Malaysia during its broadcast. First reason, Song Kang and Han So Hee are the main leads. Let's admit it. Their visuals are no joke. Second reason, well, the 19+ scenes. When it was announced that Song Kang and Han So Hee will be having a show together, I was really rooting for it even though I don't know the story yet. I just want to see their chemistry together. I didn't even read the synopsis of the drama. So, I literally have no idea what the story is all about, which makes the drama more interesting to me.

Slow-paced series
A lot of my friends know that I am not really into slow-paced dramas. Because I easily get bored with those kind of dramas. But let this be an exception. The slow-paced storytelling made me connected with the characters more. I was able to feel the heaviness they felt.I really love it when there is an ample time for this kind of stare. Those voice-overs during these scenes makes me more immersed with the situation. And this one of the reasons why Nevertheless is a realistic one for me.

A realistic story
Although I really wanted to slap Nabi for her poor decisions in life, I can't totally blame her. She came from an abusive relationship. She was healing. She was lost. It's really easy for us to say who to choose and who will be better because we're not in her situation. We don't know what's really happening on her mind. Or what her heart really wants. Same goes with Jae Eon. I believe that he also don't know what he wants. He always say that he don't want to be in a relationship. But I think, deep inside him, he wanted to be loved. He's just afraid? I don't know. But that's what I feel for his character. It's just that, the way he reacts is on a toxic way.

Both characters are lost. And when we're looking for answer on another person, we'll end up hurting them or hurting ourselves. But that's the reality of life. We always get hurt with our decisions. Because even if we know it's going to affect us negatively, we'll still push through.
-- Spoiler Alert --
I remember the quote, "I'd rather have 'oh well's than 'what if's". This is a great example of that. Nabi knew that Park Jae Eon will eventually hurt her. But she decided to continue liking Jae Eon and be in a relationship with him. At least, they tried making it work.

Another second lead syndrome
The feelings I felt while watching Nevertheless was the same feeling I got when I watched "A Love So Beautiful". My heart goes for the second lead, the good guy that the main lead didn't choose. Aside from the fact that I liked Chae Jong Hyeop, (come on! Look at his pretty smiles) I really liked his character here in Nevertheless. Yang Do Hyuk knows what he really wants in the first place. He likes Nabi. He wants Nabi to be happy. He is honest with what he feels. And because he loves Nabi more, he decided to let her go at the end. I really feel bad for him for choosing someone who doesn't love him.

During the first few episodes, I really wanted to ship him with Nabi. But while the story progresses, I stopped shipping him because I believed he deserves someone better. Although his love life wasn't a success, his career is. We don't know what happened next to him but I just hope that he will also find his happiness.

The scene stealers
Aside from the main leads' story, we are also rooting for these characters. They have their own story to tell. They also have their own struggles. Nevertheless showed us that there are different kind of love stories, different kind of struggles. These pairs made Nevertheless more interesting.

Final Thoughts
For me, Nevertheless is actually a good drama. But it may not be everyone's cup of tea. It really depends on you if you would love the flow of the story. For me, the drama has ended well and I don't see the need for another season. To be honest, I wanted Nabi to not end with anyone. But the ending somehow was justified because at least she was able to voice out what she really wants. And that is to be with Jae Eon even if Jae Eon might hurt her in the future. She took the risk.With this drama, I learned to understand people more, especially with their life choices. We're all lost and we're still figuring things out. But I hope we can all be strong to face those struggles may it be in love or in life, generally.

This series is available on Netflix.

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Nabi

I really liked this one, but it lacked a few things (like the ending, which wasn't the best), but other than that, the development of the main characters was good, the secondary ones were really good, the couples that didn't have as much focus as the main one still had a lot of things talking about them, that said 8.5/10, I don't give a higher score because of the ending that could be better.

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contém spoilers.

Primeiro de tudo, o dorama entrega MUITO no cast principalmente por ter a Sohee no elenco. Porém convenhamos que nesse dorama ela nao serviu, primeiro que o personagem do Song Kang nesse dorama eh um merd$ e a Nabi (Sohee) nao consegue ver isso, claro que o final do dorama ja era esperado. Porém fiquei decepcionado que a Nabi e o carinha da batata não tiveram sequer UMA cena bonitinha juntos, o dorama todo eh so a Nabi chorando por causa do Song Kang e a Bit na falando pra bixinha que ele nao prestava.
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Todo país tem seu After

Horrível, isso descreve a série. Meus olhos doeram assistindo, mas eu persisti. Os protagonistas são patéticos e o final deles é uma bosta. Nem o elenco salvou o show. Aguentei até o final por um motivo: Sol e Jiwan. Elas apareciam por 30 segundos em cada episódio, mas com elas eu recuperava os anos que perdia quando assistia a essa cópia mal feita de Chernobyl, o casal principal. A série é uma bomba, mas os personagens secundários são legais, essas 2 estrelas são por eles. Não recomendaria isso nem ao meu pior inimigo.
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🌼Holi, ¿Cómo están?🌼 Hoy les traigo la reseña de Nevertheless, el último dorama que vi.

🎨Por si no saben de qué se trata, acá les cuento: Yoo Na-Bi es una estudiante de arte que rompió con su novio luego de verlo siendo infiel. Para ahogar sus penas, entra sola a un bar, dónde termina conociendo a Park Jae Uhn, un chico obsesionado con las mariposas. Para sorpresa de ella, esa no será la única vez que lo vea.

😕¿Cómo empiezo esto? Nevertheless empezó prometiendo mucho y terminó con sabor a poco. Los pongo en contexto: este kdrama está clasificado como +15 y prometía salirse un poco de la norma. Ojo, al principio lo hace, pero esto se pierde a medida que pasan los capítulos.

😔Entre más pasan los días y más pienso, más cosas que no me gustan encuentro. Al principio la relación de los protagonistas era interesante y parecía salirse del típico romance cliché, pero, plot twist, al final no. A medida que avanza la historia todo se vuelve más y más igual a todo lo que ya vimos.

❌Hablando de los protagonistas, al principio me caían muy bien, parecía que iban a tener un desarrollo tremendo, pero siento que al final quedaron re planos, en especial Park Jae Uhn. Intentan de una manera muy vaga justificar por qué él es como es, pero en realidad no tiene mucho sentido.

✅Aunque sí hay algunas cosas que me gustaron mucho de este drama. Primero, la química que manejan Song Kang y Han So Hee está a otro nivel, les creí todo lo relacionado a las ganas que tenían de estamparse contra la pared jajaja. Segundo, el second lead tiene una personalidad muy bonita y se mantiene hasta el final, cosa que no siempre pasa en este tipo de series. Tercero, hay dos parejas secundarias que me encantaron, siento que a pesar de tener muchísimo menos tiempo en pantalla, el desarrollo de ambas está muy bien hecho y se siente súper genuino.

🦋Por último, a pesar de todo lo que no me gustó, este drama es súper adictivo y hace que necesites saber cómo va a seguir todo, por lo menos en la primera mitad de la serie.

Véanla únicamente si ya se vieron todos los dramas de romance y quieren ver a Song Kang.

Si quieren más reseñas sin spoiler, síganos en instagram @altoplottwist

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