Nevertheless, (2021)

No final, poderia ter sido melhor!

Eu gostei não vou mentir
O tema do drama foi muito bom, tudo que relacionou a ele
Essa coisa mais realista, do relacionamento de pessoas mais jovens e o amor e além da representatividade com o casal das meninas.
O Jae eon sempre gostou dela mas o passado dele que nem explicou muito porque ele não gostava de relacionamentos o impediu de querer estar com ela né?
Acho que eles foram amadurecendo ao longo de tudo e ficou claro que ela não ficaria com o Do Hyeok.
Não sei, eu realmente não entendo muito como diferenciar, será que o Jae eon e ela estão num relacionamento abusivo?
Senti falta de falar sobre o passado dele na questão de relacionamento. Teve episódios bem lentinhos que poderia ter falado disso!
Enfim, acho que é isso que tenho pra falar.

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Did it for Sol and Ji Wan

I started this drama mid through with low expectations since all the comments I saw rambled about how toxic Na-bi and Jae eon´s relationship was. Well, ladies and gentlemen, the criticism is well deserved.

The main couple´s relationship should have never worked out. Unfortunately. Well. We know how it went.

Whenever Na-bi was around Jae eon, she kept feeling insecure while second-guessing herself. She constantly repressed her feelings and words. The best way to exemplify this is by using her statements. "Jae eon keeps making me think the way my annoying ex did." "Jae eon makes me feel anxious." "My anxiety about Jae eon hasn´t disappeared, but..."
When I reached the last episode, I was so saturated that I couldn´t even stand to look at Jae eon´s face. No matter how much he redeemed himself, the past holds too much of their relationship. Progressing from that is not realistic. A continuance between their relationship is just toxic.

"-Na-bi, you know what? Flowers don´t bloom just for one butterfly."
"-What are you saying?"
"-Jae eon is like that flower. Full of vanity, a symbol of seductive beauty that withers once it´s plucked."
I wish Na-bi had listened to Bit Na. My girl knew what she was saying.

Truth be told I only completed this series for Sol and Ji Wan. They were my breath of fresh air. It would have been lovely if they could have more screen time, but I´m not too upset. Okay. I sort of am. You can´t tell me that you have time to give a "happy ending" to a toxic relationship, but not explore Ji Wan and Sol´s story properly.

It felt only appropriate to end this review with my favorite quotes. "Sol. Can you hold my hand again? I like you the most. I like you more than my mom and dad. You´re my favorite person in the world."

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tóxico e sem sal

Não vi muitos doramas, mas esse deve estar no meu top 5 dos piores. Não tenho muito o que criticar quanto à atuação, música, fotografia ou direção, mas o enredo é meio sem noção.

(spoiler a partir daqui)

A protagonista é basicamente uma batata, que não tem vontade própria. Não toma nenhuma decisão por si só, e se arrepende de praticamente tudo que os outros decidem por ela. Quando surge uma oportunidade de fazer diferente ela deixa pra outra pessoa decidir novamente. Isso se repete até o último minuto do último episódio. A galera coreana curte essas paranóias?

O protagonista é um manipulador. Fãs mais determinados podem defender que ele deve ter algum trauma não explicado. Bem, quem não tem? kkkkk Mesmo sendo confirmadamente um babaca e traído a confiança da Na-Bi várias vezes, em toda oportunidade que aparece de explicar maus ententidos e apaziguar os ânimos, ele faz exatamente o contrário. A série dá a entender que ele supostamente tem algum interesse pela Na-Bi, mas quando surge algum boato e ele vê que ela tá sofrendo, faz questão de tirar sarro com a situação ou não falar nada. Não entendo de psiquiatria, mas talvez seja algum traço de psicopatia? O dorama se passa inteirinho nesse jogo de desprezo/atenção.

Se não fosse a quarentena, seria mais um dorama que eu teria dropado no primeiro episódio. Acabei dando uma chance torcendo pra Na-Bi se ferrar o suficiente pra pensar na própria vida (fui infeliz). Queria que tivessem desenvolvido melhor os personagens secundários, que mesmo com histórias clichês, ainda davam um calorzinho no coração. Comparado ao casal principal, a maior parte do tempo você fica se perguntando "que?" ou "como assim?" sem entender o que está acontecendo. Não é que a decisão seja estúpida, é que não faz sentido mesmo. A mina acabou de ter uma desfeita horrível com o relacionamento e se apaixona por outro maluco no mesmo dia num bar a ponto de sofrer emocionalmente toda vez que se encontram... isso faz algum sentido? Na vida real, em algum tempo ela se daria conta de que estava frágil emocionalmente, mas acabaram tentando romantizar essa confusão mental. E quando o Jae Eon pega outra menina na frente da casa da Na-Bi, ela vê, fica em pedaços e beija ele assim mesmo? UAHSDUHASUDHAHAS sabe, o problema aqui não é a atitude que ela toma, mas o processo antes disso. Ela se abala emocionalmente, briga com ele, ele diz que é daquele jeito, ela não aceita e depois finge amnésia -até aí ok, de repente ela decidiu meter o louco por um dia, mas não. Depois disso ela começa a surtar mais uma vez e põe a culpa no cara justo quando ele decidiu ser cara de pau o suficiente pra ser sincero uma vez na vida. Eu nem sabia mais o que eu estava vendo.

Do ep 1 ao 10 você vai ficar ofendido no lugar Na-Bi assistindo ela ser tratada como um pau de selfie - bem aleatório mesmo, às vezes você usa, às vezes não.

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Bem ruinzinho

Park Jae Eon ele é do tipo controlador que pode passar o rodo mas não quer que a pessoa que ele está ficando faça isso, ele quer determinar quando começa e quando termina as coisas, tanto que quando apareceu outro cara na vida da Na Bi ele fez questão de se aproximar mais dela e mostrar que ele estava ali. Ele não gosta de se comprometer e não mostra isso para as mulheres que ele fica, sempre dá falsas esperanças para elas.

Quanto a Na Bi, ela tem baixa autoestima, saiu de um relacionamento tóxico e abusivo e criou uma dependência emocional por Park Jae Eon, ele mexia com seu psicológico (mas também ela não era florzinha toda que se mostrava no começo).
Ela tinha o amigo Do Hyuk, vulgo batatinha, que acabou se confessando e ela não tinha sentimentos além de amizade por ele e continuou dando esperanças ( ainda bem que pelo menos no fim ele se livrou dessa).

A princípio eu achava que Na Bi e Jae Eon tinham visões muito diferentes de futuro, mas no fim pra mim eles eram farinha do mesmo saco, porque ela sabia que não era amor, que iria sofrer e se arrepender mas ainda assim queria estar nessa enrola com ele.

Sério, cada um teria que ter seguido seu caminho separados e fazendo uma boa terapia.

Eu sinceramente prefiro os casais secundários principalmente a Bit Na e o Nam Kyu Hyun.

Nevertheless é uma romantização de relacionamento tóxico e o povo passando pano só porque o personagem era bonito.

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a uniquely frustrating plot

I agree with the others in the review section saying how realistic the drama/plot/feelings are. Not everything in life is just going to be following the typical kdrama relationship, there *will* be relationships where one person is stringing the other along, leading to miscommunication and toxicity. First of all, I'd like to applaud the writer for even thinking of creating such a fxckboy of a character for the male lead, as you don't see that very often. The female lead's character (imo) literally *makes* the whole plot possible as she's a submissive, gullible, helpless romantic. These two types of characters/personalities, when put together, obviously would create a huge headache that would be painfully entertaining to watch. In my case, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the drama, but at the same time, I had to pause every 10 minutes to think about how mad the plot (mainly the female lead's decisions) made me. If you've got a weak mental and can't tolerate people playing with another's feelings, this one's not for you. Mental masochists, grab some snacks as you'll probably finish this drama in a single night.

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DROPPING BC NABI WTF

SPOILER AHEAD! PLS DONT READ IF U DONT WANNA RUIN ANYTHING UR IMAGINING ABT THE PLOT!


when i first started it i got so excited nd curious bc the teasers were giving me buterflies but since it was on going and theyre trending on twitter i kepf seeing spoilers on my tl and at first twas alright but BROOO i cpuldnt take Nabi's dumbness ljke WHY WOULDD U PICK THE GUY WHO KEEPS TOYING U?? AHHH JINJA BICHEOSSO i liked the potato guy better even if Jae On was like hotter hehe MAJOR SECOND LEAD SYNDROME!

I also hate the girl that keeps meeting up with Jae On, i liked the side love stories better!! I endured watching more since i loved what was going on with Bit-na's relationship with her friend
and Sol with her bestfriend, but i couldnt take fr i hatw how dumb Nabi is lmaooo i wanted her tp have a healthy relationshjp bc of what happemed to her and his ex but urghhh she just wouldnt learn her lesson ugh..

But props for giving us more screentimes for the intimates scences hahaah one of the reason why i kept going too aside from i love the casts

Qnyway im jjst expressing my thoughts, watch this at your own risk or if u like toxic, push and pull relationship, with anxiety warning disguised as butterfly in stomach kinda things!

I might finish this someday but not right now tho i still cabt get over it

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From Lust to Love

This drama is not for everyone as a lot of people seek for love in dramas but this started with lust . It starts with sexual tension that slowly turns into obsession towards each other then wanting to be together.This does depict the situation where people really cannot show their true feelings to other people.

It's a slow burn with some artistic and visually rich both in atmospheric and appearance of all actors. All the songs provide a perfect ambience for all kinds of situation shown. "LOVE ME LIKE THAT" is my favorite.

I love the fact that Yu-Nabi made the fact clear "HEART WANTS WHAT IT WANTS". People cannot force their feelings knowing the fact that other person can make you happy but you wouldn't be able to feel that happiness no matter how much we try. Moreover, Park Jae-on does bring the best out of Yu-Nabi that is most important in any relationship.

What more stands out is supporting cast. Oh bit-na character is something that made me watch this drama more. After watching this I am happy that I didn't miss beautiful and confident female actresses that backed each other directly and at times indirectly.

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Nevertheless, this show fell apart in the last quarter

This was the first Kdrama I couldn't binge in one sitting and I think that meant the anticipation for each episode was higher - so were the inevitable satisfaction and then disappointment.

Nevertheless was a solid drama that was actually a very good drama until the end. The side romances, particularly the burgeoning lesbian romance were arguably more interesting and there was actually something delightful in seeing Sol realise that her feelings were reciprocated. I could have watched an entire show about that arc. As it is, Na-bi and Jaeon were interesting but full of cliches. I lost my mind at how he refused to explain to her a very simple truth about the circumstances of his relationships with other women when it would help his cause, especially when he got beaten up. His refusal for honesty coupled with his insistent reiteration that Na-bi was the one were confusing. His actions never supported his words. I thought the highs and lows of their relationship were beautifully realistic in the sense that she understood he was toxic and began managing her own heart, but only feebly. Although Jaeon's lack of transparency was frustrating, and his persistence was borderline unethical, the first half of the show was worth watching. Na-bi is a warming character who is navigating education whilst refusing, and failing, to get sucked into another heartbreak.

The story, for me, derailed with the cliched love triangle attempt. Viewers knew that 'potato boy' never had a chance. He was there as an interesting obstacle, but it wasn't even interesting. It made Jaeon's jealousy and continuing refusal to be honest all the more infuriating. The show did have some sweet and tender moments but they were a rarity by the end because it was clear Na-bi and Jaeon were incompatible. The resolution that was seemingly made in the penultimate episode was undone very quickly, although with some very good acting. That's the other thing, the acting was never an issue. All the actors performed their roles superbly. But some of the writing and character decisions were baffling. I just can't understand how the writers in this day and age thought to end the story like that whilst Na-bi is under the impression that Jaeon is someone who toys with people's feelings.

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Am I the only one who genuinely enjoyed this drama?

I don't understand all those bad reviews and comments honestly? I think this drama was really good. It felt real. You don't see this type of relationship often in kdramas. Song Kang was perfect as Park Jaeon, he portrayed a popular guy whose scared of commitment, and Han So Hee as Yu Nabi was also great at portraying a girl who can't resist him. They showed exactly how it usually is in real life. Their relationship could be seen as a toxic one but I don't think it was. I think it was just full of challenges and uncertainties. However, I think everyone who watched it and who is planning to watch it, should develop their own opinion on this. Ofc I have a lot to impute to Jaeon but also to Nabi, they both weren't perfect yet I feel like they were perfect for each other. I definetly recommend this drama to everyone it makes you feel all types of emotions and also supporting roles and their stories are really worth paying attention to.

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Views of love and s*x in the eyes of young adults

This drama reflects the everyday difficulties of college students, from trying to meet deadlines to their approach to love life. The majority of which talks about their views and idea about what is love and s*x and how to differentiate and approach it in the eyes of a college student. whether this view is shallow or not, is up to the viewer's point of view.

And this story talks mostly about toxic relationships and how amidst the fact that the female character knows that her relationship is toxic, and it cost her emotional pain she still hangs onto the desperate thread of hope that she will find happiness in it. This is one of those genres where the female character thinks she's " the special one " that can turn a playboy into a loyal companion/partner. whether she is successful or not, in the end, is hard to decide.

Personally, I disagree with everything in this drama. She( the female character) practically sacrifice her education to indulge in a so-called relationship. she should have put her education before her love life. (Yes, I agree that love is important but it's not gonna fill ur tummy. ) This wasn't her first relationship, right after experiencing one toxic relationship, she still refuses to learn and indulge herself in another. If she had learned her lesson from the first one, then she wouldn't have spent all that time confused about how she should approach her current relationship. Instead, although knowing that her current chelaship is exhausting her emotionally, she still refuses to come into terms with it. I find this very hard to digest. Her decisions weren't mature enough and more like a teenager going through their first love, confused and unaware of how to deal with it.

I don't know what is right and what is wrong, but this story pretty much trying to say is Love = S*x.

This is one of those dramas where the side character's love stories are much more interesting than the leads. Apart from the toxic college relationship of the main leads it also talks about other views of love and s*x in the eyes of young adults.

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Great start but a questionable ending

I was looking forward because of Song Kang but I had to say, I ended up watching for the supporting characters. You can see much more character growth from them then the leads. To be honest, it was suffocating to watch Han So Hee's character in the show. She was portrayed as weak and hesitant through the whole show, even till the ending. I get that this is her intended character, and she is a really good actress but I cannot get over the negative vibes on her. The interaction between the leads are really depressing. I get that Jaeon is toxic too in the original story. But they both just looked too depressing.

Even at the end when they decided on a happy ending, So Hee's face don't look too happy? She looks too unfocused or uncertain about it. And it makes me think that this is not an ending, but just another episode. They did not elaborate more on the closure. I was kinda disappointed about it. I rather they leave the mood at them going separate ways or make it vague this round.

It was the supporting characters' development got me watching. I really love Yoon Sol and Ji Wan's part. From the first episode, you can tell from Yoon Sol that she see Ji Wan differently, and I was rooting for their relationship and each realizing their feelings. Also for Bit Na's. Although they had their happy endings, it felt so natural that it is not a closure because it is the last episode, but more of like, it is the beginning of a new chapter. I really like how the supporting characters' stories are portrayed.

You should watch it, for the supporting characters more.

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I can appreciate this drama.

I admit that I was hoping that it would end with her and Jae-eon going separate ways. I think it's important for women to watch stories about women that don't stick around hoping a guy will change or finally take them seriously. I was hoping this would be a drama for that. While this did get a "happy ending", I still think it's one of the most realistic kdramas I've seen in a long time. It's very human for Nabi to decide to still give a chance to Jae-eon even if she knows it might result in more pain and disappointment. Throughout the series, she was a very meek reserved girl. Many might deem her dumb for asking Jae-eon out, but I saw it as an empowering act of going for what she wanted and truly accepting her feelings for Jae-eon. As her professor said "There's no need to overthink it. Eat what you want, and do what you want to do. Like the people you like.." And that's exactly what she did. Personally, when I decide to see this story as being Nabi's story and not so much Jae-eons, I can see how much our Nabi has grown.

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