Entre Nós (2022)

BounPrem deserved more screen time

Now with the headline that isn’t me saying don’t watch this. In fact I enjoyed myself a lot. This will be short and sweet but I just want to share a few of my thoughts

Firstly I like the development between Win and Team, with each of them have their own background to give them depth. I understand why they fell for eachother but something didn’t add up.. the lust they had for eachother at the beginning that initially brought them together- where did that go? I understand with them becoming a couple things would be more respectful between the two.. but it just seemed a little flat. I wishes things could be more intense leading up to them getting together. They slept together and it could’ve been shown how much they lusted for eachother and their thoughts of regret for crossing that line. They touched it briefly but the screen time to fully flesh that out was lent to other characters we didn’t need. Win and Team could’ve had more moments to show their conflicted feelings wondering whether they really loved eachother and why?

I really liked the development they had and every scene with the both of them was good. Side characters had too much time while the leads stories could’ve been pushed further. So what was there between Win and Team was not bad, I just wished that they could’ve made things more intense. Not in a sexy way all the way.. but emotionally. Like the scenes that were really good like the pool scene was amazing. The budget seemed to be on another level. The raining scene and then the confession were both really good. Boun and Prem have so much chemistry and their acting for those scenes in particular are overshadowed by the other nonsense happening in the show. It’s drastic shifts from them to the B Plots. Boun REALLY did amazing and had a lot of emotion he showed, I wished he had more scenes to show off his acting talents but really he was amazing in the emotional scenes.

The side couples didn’t need to be there other than Manow’s. But hers was given the least? Every other side couple wasn’t in Until We Meet Again so that gave the show plot holes. Like they existed in this story but not the other and I wished the two series were more consistent. Team had a LOT of PTSD and a lot to work with, at the beginning this show was doing really well so I don’t know what really happened. Each episode was fun to watch but they grew less engaging.

So I didn’t hate this show. I really liked it, I’m just at odds with the execution. I wanted this to be really really good with the long wait- but it was just pretty good. You can skip side characters and focus on Win and Team and you’ll have a good watch.

Leia Mais

Started off strong but struggled to stay afloat

Between Us was three years in the making. It had an existing fan base for the lead actors and from Until We Meet Again. It was well set up to succeed but, for me, it ultimately failed to live up to the bar set by UWMA and its own early episodes. Though it was one of my most anticipated series - and one which did have moments when it shone - I can't help but be disappointed.

Going in, I was expecting it to take place on a parallel timeline to UWMA. I haven't read the novel, so I didn't know what exactly to expect plot-wise, and don't know how much of it is true to the source material. Despite going in pretty blind, my expectations were high and I was excited to see the cast I knew and loved from the original series.

BU started off really well, though it did feel like they expected you to have watched UWMA. UWMA didn't tell us much about Team and Win as characters so they were brimming with potential. The early episodes had me hooked by setting up Team's childhood trauma and subsequent anxiety/insomnia, and hinting that Win also had attachment issues and family conflicts of his own. The lead actors also have great chemistry so that alone was doing a lot of the legwork. However, where the series fell flat for me is that is barely scratched the surface of these character backstories which seemed to be goldmines for compelling arcs.

I think this series was meant to be a character study more than something plot heavy. But character studies take *work* and it just did not feel like the writers put any in. By the later episodes, it felt more like they were trying to cram in tried and tested overly-familiar tropes than continuing to refine and shape their characters. By the end of the series, I felt like I barely knew Win better than I did at the start. As for Team, at least his storyline was resolved, but by the time the resolution came it felt like the plotline had been exhausted without getting much added depth.

As for the side characters, I wasn't expecting much more Dean/Pharm content since they had their own series. But I was hoping we would get to see more of Manow and Phruek since they were pretty sidelined in UWMA. Again, they set up a really compelling story for Manow - a young woman who wants to make in acting but feels like she doesn't have the right "look" - but instead of fleshing out her journey or relationship, they once again got a handful of scenes that seemed like they were just there to placate the audience rather than add to the story.

The new side characters didn't really work for me. I didn't have any qualms about the ABC gang as friends and comic relief, but I didn't feel like the Bee/Prince storyline was necessary. In the same vein, I didn't really get invested in Waan/Tul. These romances weren't explored or resolved well in any case, just going to show that the writers threw more balls in the air than they knew how to juggle. The show also, in my opinion, did a disservice to the friendships already established in UWMA. Though we got a handful of scenes, we barely got to see Win's friendship with Dean which apparently goes back to childhood - in fact, we barely got to see Win open up to anyone. And sometimes when Team would be pouring his heart out to ABC, I would be left wondering why he wasn't having this conversation with his alleged best friends.

Halfway through the show, the plot started to get all over the place - in a bad way. Character development does not have to be linear. Plots can be messy. But the writers didn't seem to have any grasp of how to build tension (and not let it deflate) or the concept of a "beginning, middle, and end" that most of us are taught in elementary school. Plots are meant to culminate in a climax which, by the time it came on this show, was dumbfounding because it felt so long overdue. Team's insecurities that Win was "like this with everyone" started, after a point, to sound delusional since we as an audience never saw him do this beyond looking out for his brothers. The writers could easily have added weight to his concerns by showing Win offering to help other members of the swim team, for example, instead of scenes dedicated to Bee wiping off Prince's makeup while he sleeps. As for Win's inability to commit, the dysfunctional family was more than enough to flesh out where this trait comes from, but, like Team, we basically end up knowing not much more than his coffee order.

Other aspects of the show were also not great. The background music was terrible (and often completely at odds with what was happening in the scene) and the OST most definitely did not need to be performed live during one of the most tense scenes on the show. There were a couple of moments when sexuality was addressed so bizarrely it was hard for me to grasp what exactly the show was trying to say. And the less said about the hair and makeup the better.

Ultimately, the show was kind of a flop for me. It had a talented cast and so much potential, but it almost all completely wasted on an unfocused plot and no clear understanding of its own characters. I had been hoping this would be one for the ages, but I don't think I'll even be thinking about it by this time next week.

Leia Mais

Don’t compare it to it’s prequel Until we meet again.

No action, no mystery - like in the prequel. Watch this first and then UWMA is my advice. I must say that I like this also novel based series a lot more.
Several couples, where the main story between Win/Team gets more attention than the other. Great acting and chemistry between the 2 main leads, Boun and Prem. The need a bit of a free hand in the script/acting to give their combined acting potential a super boost - like in episode 11. This was I think not the case in another of their series: Even sun - I didn’t end watching this series.
The depth in this series lies in emotional problems/characters and development in this area. There is attention for thoughts about the heavy consequences of being famous for a private live through the story of Prince/Bee. There’s als attention for starting to know each other online and making the step to a real relation (Wan/Tul). I like it that there was room for a non-BL couple (Manow ❤️/Pruek). The acting from all actors was good. Special attention from me for the 3 fiends A, Bee and Sea. Always worth a good laugh.
Great OST from Boy Sompob.

Leia Mais

Not bad at all but plenty of room for improvement

I have seen UWMA and that’s how I came across Hemp Rope. Expectations were built from 3 year wait for this series.
For new artists, the two lead obviously improved in their acting from UWMA. Facial expressions and the pauses in speaking need to improve for all casts. Find it common with Thai series the weird pauses before speaking like they are waiting for a cue to speak and this is during emotionally driven scenes. Awkward to look at. Team being a cutesy, whiny character seems not fitting - it is a college setting. The whining could have been toned down.
The story is good - relating to mental issues and it’s effect on people around us and our own life.
I became a shipper for the WinTeam because of the excellent fan-service these two provide. They are being r their real selves while honestly providing fanservice.
The production for this is great. The hard work is obvious. I believe wardrobe is alright. I just wish they were dressed appropriately for some of the scenes. This is supposed to be college scenario but in some scenes wardrobe is more for teenagers.
Tattoo art is a great addition in character.

Scene when Win was over Teams place and it’s really out there that Team is introducing Win to his parents when they are already about to eat.??‍♀️

Overall, I enjoyed this series. Don’t expect anything exemplary. Just enjoy it for what it is - a light story BL series.

Leia Mais

The Most Anticipated becomes The Most Dissapointing

The first 9 episodes were honestly so confusing, the plot was going nowhere. Just when they start to address the problem in their relationship, the next episode they act like nothing happened and completely ignoring it. Win is confused whether his feelings toward Team is platonic like caring for a brother or is romantic, he also doesn't want to love anyone. Team likes Win but is afraid to communicate his feelings. Just when they have realized that the plot reset back to the start, like nothing happened, and then they back to realizing then back to nothing happened. They start addressing their situation on episode 10 and 11, that is where things start to get better and clearer.

Second, too many side couple and situation , while we should be focusing on the main couple and their progress in their relationship. I'm going to say the same thing about the back story of Team's nightmare, I think that's it's good to give a back story but it has gotten a bit complicated, kind of bothering the plot bcs they put this story in the middle of everything and just left it hanging. I think they really should be focusing on clearing their issues and defining their relationship status.

Third, the acting. Boun Prem's chemistry is good but I can't really feel it in this series. Prem's acting is really good, Boun still has a bit to go, because they are the main character and the story needs their acting to be deep and touching. But it's okay.

For me this series is lacking a lot because they make this series about WinTeam being the main character, not just some side stories like they were in UWMA. I'm absolutely disappointed with series, especially the confusing plot and the additional side couple, we have waited years for this to come out but this is what we get.

Leia Mais

Not amongst the best BL series in 2022-2023

If this had been released together with Until We Meet Again back in 2019 or in 2020, it would have been more highly rated. Unfortunately, the series feels a little dated because BL series have largely moved on. I am certainly not saying that a series has to keep up with whatever is fashionable. However, the series does not seem to be able to avoid some of the weaknesses of BL scripts a few years ago.

The use of multiple couples without a proper focus on the side couples is one thing that could have been avoided. Despite the presence of Win and Team as a couple in 2019's Until We Meet Again, it managed to focus on Dean and Pharm and the storyline was strong. However, the Win/Team storyline in Between US is not only weaker but also diluted by unnecessary digressions to side couples.

I find myself more intrigued by the story of one of the side couples (Tul and Wan) more than the main couple even though the duo have not even become a couple as of Episode 11. Sometimes, I even find myself enjoying the scenes of friendship (Team, Pharm and Manow) and brotherly love (Win, Wan and Wiew) more than the scenes with Win and Team.

To be fair, the story of Win and Team has potential to be more moving than it is. Win is one of three brothers who never feels like anything is really meant to be his and avoids commitment because of his fear of losing someone he treasures. However, he cannot stop himself from falling deeply in love with Team. On the other hand, Team has been living with guilt ever since a friend of his drowned while they were swimming together as children. A more compelling script could have been created with these ideas. There are some fairly good scenes, such as when Win saves Team from drowning, revealing how important Team is to him as he reprimands Team for swimming by himself. Yet, trajectory of the plot isn't very clear and instead of actual development, we often just see each half of the couple vacillate between realizing that he loves the other person and being in some sort of denial. We don't quite see how their attraction to each other intensifies over time or how each increasingly needs the presence of the other. The story simply goes like: they have a fling, somehow each is very much in love with the other, but oh . . . neither dares to show it because of the fear that the other person just wants a friend with benefits.

Without a strong plot, one might rather just rewatch 2021's Between Us (not an actual series but a few short episodes of random scenes with Win and Team). At least that didn't feel too draggy and there's a focus on Win and Team.

Leia Mais

Great Continuation of previous BL drama

This story highlights the love story between Win and Team. Unbeknownst to myself, they were the side characters in a previous series called "Until We Meet Again" (UWMA) where the main characters were P'Dean and Pharm. In Between us, I was slightly confused as to how Dean and Pharm knew eachother and the flashbacks didn't help much. It was only until I watched UWMA that I completely understood. If you're going to watch this series, I highly suggest that you first watch UWMA. Overall, this series has been a 10/10 for me this far. I'm looking forward to the forthcoming episodes. <(^•^)>

Leia Mais

Made me wish the show never got released

UWMA was one of my first BLs and the side couple were my favourite part of the show, so I was very excited to find out they were going to be leads in their own show. I held strong with the production delays, watched compilations of their moments and the short that was released. All this only for the acting to be cringy at best and atrocious at worst. The pacing was off and the forced "cute" acting just came off as juvenile and immature, making it a hard watch. 10/10 wouldn't rewatch. The poor acting of a majority of Thai BLs needs to be addressed fr, because I'm baffled by the high rating of not only this BL but several others.

Leia Mais

La construction d'une relation

J'ai aimé Between Us, beaucoup. Si la série n'est pas exempte de reproches, la douceur qui se dégage de la relation Win/Team est ce qui m'a bloquée devant mon écran et fait fondre.
Dérivée de Until We Meet Again, elle se rapproche de la série d'origine par l'utilisation du traumatisme en tant que ligne directrice de l'évolution des personnages, et c'est à peu près tout. Il ne faut pas s'attendre à retrouver l'ambiance de UWMA, et il ne faut pas s'attendre à retrouver les WinTeam de UWMA, qui avaient un rôle plus humoristique. Il y a néanmoins une belle combinaison de drame et de comédie qui rend le tout fort agréable à suivre.

Win et Team se sont trouvés alors qu'ils ne se cherchaient pas, et sont ainsi obligés de faire face à ce qui pourrait empêcher leur relation d'avancer, en l'occurrence le traumatisme de Team et la peur d'être abandonné de Win. Leur relation avance doucement, tranquillement, la réalisation prenant le temps de s'attarder sur les aléas de la vie de tous les jours et sur ce qui fait qu'une relation à court terme devient une relation à long terme. Abandonner ses peurs, ses doutes, accepter de laisser l'Autre entrer, et d'ailleurs la scène du "je t'aime" est absolument parfaite si on se positionne de ce point de vue là. Je comprends les critiques disant que c'est trop lent, qu'il n'y a pas d'histoire, mais je n'y adhère pas car ce sont bien les petits détails qui m'ont infiniment plu dans cette histoire, Team qui monte dormir avec Win, le regard de Win quand Team vainc son angoisse de concourir, finalement ce sont tous ces petits moments qui m'ont donné un plaisir fou.
Les acteurs principaux sont par ailleurs un bonheur, l'alchimie BounPrem fonctionnant à merveille.

Quelques critiques tout de même : le nombre de couples annexes. Je sais que beaucoup de personnes les ont aimés, ce qui n'est pas mon cas, je ne les ai tout simplement pas trouvés intéressants, et le passage d'un couple à l'autre coupe le tempo de l'histoire principale ce que j'ai trouvé assez désagréable. Excepté le couple DeanPharm (mais comptent-ils vraiment comme un couple annexe ?). Deuxième chose, que j'ai par ailleurs déjà mentionnée, j'avais adoré WinTeam dans UWMA et je m'attendais à revoir ces personnages et cette relation, ce qui n'est pas du tout le cas dans Between Us. La transition est ainsi un peu compliquée entre les deux séries. Enfin, il y a tellement d'approximations et de stéréotypes BL que trop c'est trop (les "nageurs" du club de natation ne nagent pas très bien, apparemment on n'éteint jamais la lumière en Thaïlande même quand on dort, il y a un nombre de flashbacks excessif, évidemment quand on fait un cauchemar on parle dans son sommeil, la fameuse fièvre et le lavage du corps au lit qui s'ensuit etc.).
Mais finalement tout ça n'est qu'accessoire.

Leia Mais

What happened???

This series got off to a strong start. Just started.
I loved the characters - Win (the best green flag ever), Tul (ahh, my fav); the couples - WinTeam, TulWaan (#1fav), BeePrince (#2fav), the friendship between Team, Pham and Manon.
But, the story, man, was boring. I'm sorry for the people how liked this series, but I got bored after the first few episodes.
The chemistry between Team and Win was there. I'm so sorry they didn't get a better story.
As much I loved the couple - TulWaan - their reconciliation scene might not exist. It felt so forced. A simple kiss was fine there.

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