TharnType: A série (2019)

HATE HATE HATE HATE

*some things I wrote about the actual scenes in the show could be exaggerated or incorrect. I have not seen the show since 2021 and no one thought in my mind is thinking about doing it. thank you*

I don't understand how this show has an overall rating of 7.7. When i first watched this show in 2021, it was one of my first thai bls and I didn't have any expectations for how a thai bl should be. I loved it. Watched it every second I could. I even watched the second season. But now that I have been watching bls for over 2 years, my opinion has changed drastically.

1. Type, just Type

Type is one of the main characters and is described in the description as "a friendly boy, he hates gay people" which is wild. Type was molested by a man when he was younger which, i guess, gives him the right to be homophobic. Type does toxic things throughout both seasons and Tharn, honestly, deserves better. ALSO Type did not just have "anger issues", he is physco.

2. Sexual Assault

Sexual assault seems to be a theme all throughout this series. One of the first times (that I can remember, I haven't re-watched this series because who would) that this happens is when Type is in the shower and Tharn comes in and just goes down on him. I didn't realize that was how that kind of stuff worked. Tharn also always kissed and gave hickeys to Type while Type was sleeping!! WTF

3. I don't understand how they ended up getting together

Basically, Tharn wants to have sex with Type but Type hates gay people and wants to kick Tharn out of the dorm they share. Tharn doesn't shove the idea of sex down his throat but one day Type wakes up and decides he will have sex with him?? I thought you hated gay people and now you are gonna have sex with a man? OK. Type doesn't want to kiss Tharn but then they kiss with ice in their mouths, idek. How was THIS a starting moment for their relationship? What sparked between them? I don't understand.

This show has bad characters, sexual assault within their relationship, and doesn't make any sense. I think people who like it are just hypnotised by the show and will understand a few months after they finish it!:)

Leia Mais

The story builds up, starts making more sense halfway, and progressively gets better.

Before anything, allow me to say this: Much has been said about TharnType, especially with its treatment of trauma and mental health. I find that I agree with most negative sentiments, and that the execution could have been better—however, don't let this discourage you from picking this series up, because it does have a lot to offer. If I may make the comparison, I often find that in Japanese BL, female authors would use it to explore the more, say, appalling themes of love and lust, in the "safe space" of imagination and subsitution of the heroine with a male character. It is a guilty pleasure for many to consume BL. Truly, this is a very interesting topic worthy of discussion, but as this is a review on MyDramaList and not a Reddit thread, I'll instead advise you to just keep an open mind and watch TharnType for what it is: fiction. At the end, let your takeaway be a more critical perspective, and let it help you in further discourse about such matters.

Now, onto other things. To put it frankly, TharnType's biggest thing for me was the plot. The story builds up, starts making more sense halfway, and progressively gets better. Early warning: every episode will make you smile, laugh and blush... then get your heart broken. TharnType is not a light-hearted giggle-fest, made quite clear by the tension between Tharn and Type (especially with the former's homophobic tendencies). Make no mistake, however: this is definitely not a bad thing!

I found TharnType delightful, with all its fluff and mischievous playful romance. On the flipside, all the drama actually weaves quite well into the story, though it might not be completely apparent at first. If, at any point, you feel frustrated by Type's hard-headedness, or the, well, non-consensual stuff in the beginning, I suggest that you don't drop it just yet. Trust that it gets better. TharnType had me muttering "Interesting..." under my breath a few good times.

Another thing worth noting is the use of "side" characters and stories. They're not just for fillers and decoration—without spoiling anything, these "sides" are part of the build-up. A piece of advice: even if it starts off kind of confusing, pay good attention to them.

There's something negative I'd like to point out though. Can I just say that the music was so manipulative? It's my lowest-rated aspect for a reason. I felt like it was too loud and suggestive at times. Perhaps they could have toned it down (especially the suspense music, geez) and left us to interpret the plot with a more "subtle" soundtrack.

To close, I only, truly appreciated the pacing of the previous episodes as I approached the finale. The 12th and last episode, damn. Good stuff.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Given this premise, I highly suggest keeping yourself away from any spoilers. If you're watching this series anywhere with a comment box (like YouTube), do yourself a favor and don't scroll down until after the episode.

Leia Mais

When I first started watching the first episode, I didn’t have much hope, especially I was only going to watched it because I was bored and got nothing else to watched. But that was the best decision I ever did is to watched Tharntype.
- Yes, this show has portrayed sex abuse and even in the beginning you’ll get uncomfortable cos it can be little “rapey” , but the development between two characters are unbelievable. Not on episode bore me because I enjoyed it very much. The chemistry between Mew and Gul is seriously what I live for right now. If you stop watching this drama or you feel uncomfortable coz you feel uncomfortable of the sex abuse. Please just give it a chance. Honestly, made me uncomfortable too but I’m the end the relationship between the two main leads amazed me. If you ask me ITS THE BEST BL At least 2019. ( for me best BL of all time).

I guess in the end, Tharntype can be either you don’t “care” for it to I really freaking love it.

I’m just saying, hate me or not so far THARNTYPE BEAT 2gether.

Leia Mais

I quite enjoyed watching this series and the chemistry between Tharn & Type is undeniably super cute. The actors and the production were good though there were still some cringy and awkward moments. But I just cannot get past some of the problems in the plot that sometimes makes me feel conflicted when watching.

One of the issues I had was when Tharn kissed and put hickeys on Type while he was drunk and asleep. That was technically an assault and I know somehow its common in Yaoi/BL but I think it's about time we put an end to those kinds of storylines especially for live-action series. Type is a sexual assault victim that has such a great trauma that he became homophobic and what Type did would have been so triggering for him.

With regards to Type, I am not sure why but I did not feel like he redeemed himself from all the homophobic and jerk things he did. I get that his trauma is the reason why he is homophobic so we need to feel sorry for him then he fell in love with a guy, realized not all homosexuals are bad, so he redeemed himself. But I don't know it feels lacking somehow. Maybe they could have addressed his trauma more and made him realize that his trauma should not justify his hateful and jerk behavior. Or maybe it would have been better if he was instead scared of homosexuals more than hateful. All of the homophobic things he did were very hurtful and, as someone who is LGBTQ+, I felt it and somehow it was never really established that he truly felt remorse for those things he did because it’s “justified”. But still, I could not truly hate him maybe partly because of the way Gulf portrayed the character as well.

My biggest issue would be the part with Lhong. It was sort of a good twist but I did not like how it was handled because honestly he should have been imprisoned or at least maybe treated for mental health issues. The things he did were crimes and he brought so much trauma to Tar that it felt so unfair that they just let him go like that. I did not like how the series was trying to justify all the things he did because he was neglected as a child and that we need to feel sorry for him. CHILDHOOD TRAUMA IS NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR!!

I think overall I just had an issue on how the mental health issues, that at least 4 characters have, were handled. I guess I’m just tired of shows who use mental issues just to have “interesting” plots instead of maybe trying to at least do some research on them and then maybe help in providing awareness as well.

I am a hardcore Yaoi/BL fan since 2010 but and battling with some mental health issues and trauma. These kinds of series sometimes become a literal guilty pleasure for me because I find the BL couples so adorable and lovely but at the same time, I feel so guilty/conflicted when watching that sometimes I hate myself for liking the show in the first place. T_T T_T

Leia Mais

English is not my first language.

I didn't dislike this drama but I didn't love it as much as a lot of BL fans did.

I loved :
- the chemistry between the two leads. It was really incredible, they looked like a real couple!
- the story (or at least, what they wanted to show even if it was a failure) and more precisely all the things about being homophobic because of a trauma. I found this idea really interesting and new.
- I really liked the music, some scenes were really sweet and others very funny.

And....that's all.

What I disliked :

How they dealt with the trauma-thing and the scene that was almost a sexual abuse scene. I really liked the fact that Type was homophobic because of something that happened when he was a child. At first it was really interesting. But then there was a scene : Type was almost sexually abused by Tharn. I know that Tharn is a good guy, that Type "responded" and also that for BL viewers this intimate scene was "nice" to watch but I couldn't really love it. Type had never agreed with this. Moreover, all the plot around the trauma lasted for only few episodes and then, when they were a couple, everything was forgotten. It's a shame because the scenarists reduced the trauma thing as just an obstacle or an excuse to explain Type being homophobic, whereas trauma is something really difficult to overcome and many people suffer of this in real life. In the Taiwanese drama Mars, the heroine was victim of sexual abuses but her evolution and how the male lead helps her to overcome her trauma are really well-shown. In Tharn Type, Tharn doesn't seemed to care about Type's past and even Type himself seems to forgot about his own trauma. BUT IT'S A TRAUMA GUYS !! How can we "forget" a trauma?

Leia Mais

I didn't intend to write a review for this drama because one user who I had the chance to talk with in my feeds has already said everything I thought was wrong with the plot and the characters (Kate, your review is iconic). In her review, the terrible mental health representation and the abuser behaviour was extremely well explained so I suggest you all to go read it (the review was posted in January 2020, user KATE). But I decided to add a few things so that I could explain my rather high rating. So everything I write in this review will be a continuation of what she said.

First things first, I don't know how so many people are able to look past the obvious train wreck that is the plot. Yes, the chemistry is great but does it justify the "uncomfortable scenes" in this show? The scene that bothered me the most was the one where Tharn kisses and touches Type while he is drunk and sleeping; it simply doesn't match Tharn's personality and if the writer and the director's intention was to make it hot and get our hearts racing they certainly did that... my heart was racing with FURY. The fact that Type kept punching Tharn despite him being the man he loves and sleeps with every night made me really angry as well. Is violence okay just because you're jealous and furious? I am praying that the plot is different in season 2 because by the last episode the characters did seem to have developed as human beings and as lovers.

Although the transitions were super strange and we didn't know how much time had passed from one scene to the other (like how did Type suddenly offer to be a bottom in a sexual intercourse with a gay man that he clearly despised?? Wasn't he traumatised?? What????), I enjoyed the pace of the show. It wasn't boring, that's for sure.

I think the actors did the best they could with the plot they were given. The acting was decent and the chemistry between the main leads was great, which gets me to talk about the three main reasons why I gave this show a decent rating:

1- the secondary characters. I loooooved Techno so much! So funny and endearing. The parents were great. The girl Type was trying to seduce wasn't a villain, like they usually are in BL shows, and I appreciated it. Even characters that I didn't particularly like (like Tar) were important to the plot. The ones that weren't relevant to the plot made me laugh (the Korean guy and his roommate were super funny). So yeah, I really liked it.

2- the fact that this is within the Love by Chance universe. I looooove Love by Chance and it was super cool revisiting this universe. Some characters even appeared at the beginning and at the end and I was so happy! My heart was warm. I hope LBC2 and TharnType2 continues with the series crossing thing, it's really fun.

3- Mew. Just Mew. Mew Mew Mew Mew. Oh boy, that man made me feel THINGS. Every time he breathed I had a mini heart attack. When he played the drums I almost couldn't watch it because of how hot he was. His hands....... enough said. When he SMILED???????? haha.............. *sweating intensifies*. The scene where he was playing with his band and smiling and mouthing the lyrics and Type was looking at him and his eyes were shining... I....... I couldn't not give it at least 7 stars, I'm sorry. Mew is amazing and so is Tharn. EXCEPT FOR THE ALMOST RAPE SCENES. I'm sorry but it's so out of character that it genuinely frustrates me. I'm not trying to find excuses for Tharn's behaviour just because Mew is the hottest man in Thailand, by the way. I really do think these "almost-rape scenes" were there to make it more appealing and sexy for some people, which ended up ruining the show for me, and the sneaky/mischievous behaviour truly doesn't fit Tharn's character at all, in my opinion.

Ooof, now I can breathe.
Will season 2 justify these 7.5 stars and prove I was right about the character development and a promising, healthy, less train wreckish plot? I don't know. Honestly, all I have to say right now, in case you didn't get at what point I love this man, is: Mew; the power that this man holds.

Leia Mais

Why is this so popular!?

There are too many things that totally bothered me watching this series and i will list a couple of them:
1. Sexual Assault
2.Normalizing Rape
3.Normalizing toxic relationships
okay so i will now explaining everything.
1.Sexual Assault
Like come onnn. Type was obviously not into Tharn from the beggining he was comfortable being around him because of the traumatic things that had happened in his past, he tried to get away but Tharn literally forced him to do things he never agreed too, i mean okay in the StoryLine Type does fall for him but thats so bullshit. Why would you fall in Love with the guy who sexually assaulted you!? Oh right, he probably got forced.
2.Normalizing Rape
Yeah its about Type and Tharn again. Forcing somebody to sleep without just because you like them and they kissed you back when you obviously forced them too is Rape! Its Rape when the other person (in this case type) is forced into stuff he never wanted. Also when this whole thing with Thar happened and he got raped it got sooo normalized its disgusting.
3.Normalizing toxic relationships
How often did they fight? and how often did they got back together just to fight again??
Its sad how much they fought and it got frustrating at some points. But this time its Type, he is literally such a toxic and controlling Character that it makes me sick.

Would not recommendt.

Leia Mais

After binge-watching all 12 episodes over the weekend, the ending completely let me down. I felt the ending was unrealistic and did not serve the characters well. Please do bear in mind that my review is based on the fact that I have never read the novel nor watched LBC.

1. In the final confrontation scene between Tharn, Type and Lhong (which in itself was a bit long IMO), Tharn was seen to be beating himself up over what happened to Tar (someone he loved deeply before meeting Type). Yet there was no follow up to that. A meeting with Tar over the unfortunate circumstances will provide so much emotional resonance. This would have allowed some character depth to Tharn and also enable Tar to have some sort of closure given that he is the real victim. As it is, Tar miraculously recover from his year-long anxiety and depression in the last few scenes and can continue his education at France which was super-unrealistic. Also, given that his band broke up over this Tharn/Tar separation, I felt they could have also resolved the dispute between Tharn and Tum.

2. Tharn and Type's characterization. From the beginning, it seems like Tharn and Type enjoyed a healthy friendship (despite how brief it was given that they are first year's students). But this was not shown and viewers were quickly introduced to their dispute over Tharn's homosexuality. Flashback would have great to establish this. What I couldn't accept was Tharn's inconsistent characterization. He was portrayed as a loving son/brother (in his scenes with his family) and loyal friend (flashback with Lhong) yet he crossed the line and sexually assault Type because he has a crush on Type. That was highly disturbing to me.

3. The good thing that came out from the series is Techno. Played extremely well, the character is likeable without being annoying. However, we also did not get to know him more other than his ambition to be a football captain. Perhaps that is the reason I like the character. There was no introduction of background with serious implications to the character.

All in all, I would have a hard time recommending this one to anyone other than to enjoy the fluffy scenes between Tharn and Type.

Leia Mais

**Long story short: this story was pretty bad.

I didn't finish this show.
I just couldn't.
I stopped at ep 11/12, because I was tired, and I just didn't feel like going on. I know I was so close to the end, but maybe I'll go back to it later? Probably not :/

This series is kind of exasperating, and most people can look past all the other stuff because they're mainly just here for the main couple and cute cuddly things,,, but bro, I'm just tired....

Now, before you think I'm gonna shit on your favourite show, let me first disclaim that this story wasn't bad in the TERRIBLE way, it was bad in the "THIS-IS-PRETTY-CONTROVERSIAL-AND-ALSO-IM-TIRED" way. This review is spoiler-free :")

------> REVIEW START<-------

First off, the story starts pretty questionably (as all BL dramas do, because why not) with Tharn, our main guy, doing some questionable things to Type, the main character........and then the series just kinda sweeps it under the rug and it's never spoken about after that. Now, besides this, Tharn is an unproblematic KING for the most part, until....he's not, and I just get tired.

Now my main gripe with this series, besides the #controversial things they got happening here, that they just DON'T address, is the fact that:

1. some things just don't add up/make ZERO sense, but it's NEVER looked at and

2. i just got so frustrated with it, and it's completely turned me off—so much so that I simply don't want to continue.

The series definitely needs to address a few things, namely
1. San (yeah, he's a good guy i guess? in the present at least. But also, sis is very problematic and what he did to Tharn was creepy...)

2. Miscommunication trope. If you're not a fan of this trope, try your best not to get a heart attack from this show because it's EVERYWHERE. ALL THE TIME. Bro, I just don't have the patience for this? it's not to an unbearable degree, but they weren't necessarily pulling their punches with it either.

3. ---------WHAT EVEN WAS THE POINT OF TYPE'S SEXUAL TRAUMA?????!?!?! HMMMMMMMM????? QUE????? It's never addressed????? I don't want to spoil, but man you'd think this would also include some level of Type coming to terms with the fact that he was molested as a child, and learning to come to terms with himself, his body and not hating being touched by a guy....but he just completely gets over it? It was like he did a full 180 (**dua lipa emerges from underneath my bed...**) I was like LOLOLOLOLOLOL alright then I guess this is happening now?? Bishes don't got time for this we're on a 12 episode time crunch here! ain't nobody got time for you overcoming your psychological traumas,,,, just jump headfirst and it'll be totally fine. Right.

Crazy thing is, after this his trauma is just---never---looked at----ever again....hmmm.....Why do i feel like this whole sexual trauma thing Type's got going on was just a convenient plot device used to justify Type being homophobic because ----**sexual tension***. hMM...I wonder.......

Anyways, those **extremely MINOR** gripes out of the way,,,.. :)What I did like about this show was:
1. Chemistry. The actors did a great job at actually seeming like they were in love, or at least attracted to each other. At times it was like a lil bit stiff, but that's just because I'm hypersensitive towards details like this. They were pretty believable, and I could tell they must have put some actual effort into being comfortable with each other.

2. oh my gosh I loved P'Techno. No is great. SO great. Every time he entered the frame I never skipped. This actor was great at expressions, and his interactions with Type always crack me up! :D

....There's nothing else I can think of to give props to. I'm kinda conflicted over whether or not I like Type or Tharn. I've definitely grown a soft spot for Type, especially since he's come a long way. But this couple started out as a pretty generic case of "I'm only gay 4 u/bro no homo/i hate gays!!!!!1....." to **attempt at deep relationship n understanding to** to **did you forget this is a soap opera** kinda thing.

I'm tired now. Overall, this show could have actually been even better, but maybe it wasn't meant to be. I think a little bit more patience in the writing, and less MISUNDERSTANDINGS and vengeful exes (scorned hoes/jealous unrequited love) would have been the icing on the cake.

But hey---this is TV. Sensationalism is what we need. Drama. Sus. And Other may love that, but I think I've had enough of that from watching k-dramas.. :")Would I recommend Tharn Type to anyone? Sure, but it wouldn't be at the top of my list, that's for sure.

FINAL SCORES

Acting - 8/10
Story/Plot - 4/10
Rewatch Value - 3/10 (bro I don't wanna go through this again. If I did I'd just specifically skip to all the scenes that DON'T rub me the wrong way, while ignoring the ones that came before and after...and that's not sexy)

Overall : 6.5/10
Regular, sprinkled with some #controversy, could be better, No and Type are best boys.

Leia Mais

I've seen a lot of BLs, and I'm Bi, so I get the homophobia and all, this BL is one of the very few were I've seen a Gay man out and proud, let us remember that in Thailand being gay may not be a crime like it still is in many dark edges countries but it's still not really accepted by society.
The main characters are both humans that make mistakes but that is the beauty of it, Type is presented as an homophobic because of a trauma he lived in the past, it could happen to anyone, but with each episode he is learning that not everyone is the same and is slowly growing and becoming more open minded.
Tharn is a strong character that as Type said has a warm heart but is a demon when he gets mad, what happens between them is all part of their relationship, and no relationship is perfect.
But for a BL in a country where you still can't get married, can't adopt a child, and do most things any Argentine like me can, I see a lot of good points and a real story that anyone can relate to.

Leia Mais

LGBTQ MEMBERS DO NOT WATCH THIS SHOW!

ok, this is going be a long ride. Honestly i have heard so much good things about this series and it was the most popular BL, so i of course being a baby fujoshi i had to watch it. Let me just say this, IT WAS TERRIFYING. And no, i wish i was exaggerating how bad this BL is, but nah, not today. Just everything about this series is just so off. I knew the moment tharn (The main protagonist/gay character) was a creepy f*cker, when he started kissing type when he was completely wasted. WHERE'S THE F*CKING CONSTENT? How do y'all think this is okay? okay yes he didn't know that night that type was a sexual abuse victim, BUT STILL THAT'S NOT RIGHT. If type wants, he could send tharn to prison for assault. But obviously the writers made this whole situation like a JOKE. This can easily trigger sexual assault victims when they watch this series. And besides the fact type is a a huge A-HOLE, why does tharn even like him? Because he's hot? EW THARN. JUST EW. Type is a complete homophobe and he clearly HATES tharn, but tharn having ZERO braincells, obviously proceeds to touch and gets to the point to assault him again in the bathroom. I HATE BOTH THE CHARECTERS, just nothing good about them. I at least hate type a lot less than tharn. ALSO TRIGGER WARNING TO LGBTQ MEMBERS!!! Do not watch this series. Type constantly makes fun of gay people and harasses them verbally, it's so painful to watch one of the protagonist be a bad guy in a BL. He even gets to the point, to hurt his close childhood friend, when he likes men himself.

Tharn is just a f*cking manipulator, i don't know how he convinced type to like him back, but it clearly worked, UGH. Also this series has a lot of plot holes, with tharn's ex (who also got raped) idk his name, sorry. We don't really get a clear story between him and tharn and it's once again quite creepy since he's a school boy and obviously he's an underage/minor and tharn is an adult. How the f*ck did they even date? And how can i forget when type was seeing a girl and her role just disappeared into thin air, LMAO. Type gives a shitty explanation for that. Tharn just seems so forceful to type with everything he does, hence a manipulator. I don't know why this series has a lot of fans, IT DISGUSTS ME. Not a great story, plot or characters. OST is quite above average and i don't think i like anything else about this series.

Leia Mais

Important: Terrible Storyline

To be sincere the more you get into the plot the more you start to question that the story writers even cared about the actors roles then being that they somehow fell inlove through production of the series and specials and plot that was overall trash but none of my business. The main attraction they find to making scenes and their plots interesting is to add multiple se””al as*ualt storys together as to almost portray gay people as r””pists as lovers? Its almost like they fetishize gay people se””ually as*ualting people to romance and that seems to be the mainstream of this whole drama. Which is verybad and terrible i wouldn’t recommend watching this as i was blind cause i thought this would be character development towards Types end but its almost like they dont care what they write and i wonder how was this airred? and given a production? DONT WATCH THIS.

Leia Mais