Nirvana in Fire (2015)

Very rarely do I finish a drama and immediately feel a longing and yearning for it, as if a dear friend has departed. I have just finished watching this drama and I am filled to the brim with this feeling. Words cannot explain how this drama conquered my heart and colored it with so many emotions. This is one of those dramas that live up to the hype and go above and beyond. There are plenty of other reviews here on MDL that word it better than I ever could, and I hope they manage to convince you to give this one a try. Don't be daunted by the 54 episodes, the political tag, or the numerous characters. I guarantee you that in just three or four episodes, you will be able to follow the characters and the story easily. I used the help of a recap blog to memorize character names and faces, as well as a character map I found on Google Images. That little effort is worth it, because this drama is an experience you must undergo. It is truly phenomenal. I enjoyed every minute of this drama. I fell in love with Su Ge-Ge and Fei Liu's friendship, with General Meng's cute facial expressions, with Nihuang's grace and undying love, with Jinyang's sense of justice, and even Gao Zhan's wise, caring presence. I want to watch this all over again!

Leia Mais

A drama that lives up to its reputation

In a Nutshell:
Nirvana In Fire is based on a Chinese web novel Lang Ya Bang, or “The Langya list”. This list is updated each year by a spy network and provides intel to the highest bidder about who the most talented people in society are. Mei Changsu is on the list as the best political strategist and is desperately sought after by rivals Prince Yu and Prince Xian in their quest to become the Crown Prince of the Liang Dynasty. Unbeknownst to everyone, Mei Changsu’s real name is Lin Shu, whose father was a loyal Commander of the Chiyan Army. Lin Shu shared a close friendship with the Emperor’s 7th son Prince Jing, and was engaged to marry Princess Nihuang, an accomplished General of the Mu army guarding the Southern borders. Lin Shu and his father was ordered by the Emperor 12 years ago to quell a rebellion. However, the Chiyan Army was framed by political rivals which resulted in the massacre of the entire Lin family and Chiyan Army. Only Lin Shu and a few loyal soldiers survived the slaughter. Severely wounded, Lin Shu was nursed back to life with Poison of the Bitter Flame. The concoction, although lifesaving, completely stripped the once strapping Lin Shu of his physical strength and drastically altered his appearance. He uses this “disguise” to assume a new identity as Mei Changsu and returns to the Capital to bring those responsible for the conspiracy against the Lin family to justice.

The Highlights:
Nirvana in Fire is a smartly written drama with a tight plot that stays 3 steps ahead of its audience. Although the drama is often catagorised as a WuXia, it is more a battle of wits than brawn with each character a chess piece in the larger political arena. The sustained build-up to every checkmate that Mei Changsu / Lin Shu make against his enemies is logically written and well executed in terms of production, editing and design.

The heartfelt screenplay masterfully weaves the intricacies of relationships fractured by tragedy, injustice and loss. It paints a sombre yet riveting picture of the fallout between fathers and sons, husband and wives, siblings, and best friends, as a result of the Emperor’s paranoid decision to wipe out the entire Lin clan and Chiyan Army. The friendship between Mei Changsu and Prince Jing make for compelling viewing. Mei Changsu never bats an eyelid as he intentionally lies to Prince Jing about his true identity, yet at the same time he is heartbroken about not being able to reconnect with his best friend. It was equally tragic to see Prince Jing finding something oddly familiar about Mei Changsu's mannerisms, but never quite fully connecting the dots. Although Nihuang plays third wheel to the bromance, the character holds her own in terms of delivering some beautiful and poignant moments with Mei Changsu which continue to linger in your mind even after the drama finishes. The acting in this drama is also impeccable, with the bonus of no melodramatic over-the-top acting from the supporting cast (which can be quite common in C-dramas).

The lowlights:
For those not familiar with the Chinese concept of JiangHu and palace hierarchy, I think the first few episodes of this drama can be quite hardwork as it takes a while to get a hang of the lingo. However, the persistence pays off as soon as you get over this hurdle. You also need to suspend your belief that someone’s entire appearance can change so drastically and survive the ordeal. The drama also starts off really slow with an overwhelming introduction of multiple characters and relationship structures. Like I said … the beginning few episodes are hardwork!

The verdict:
Nirvana in Fire is just like a chess game - a slow start to set up moves, but a thrilling finish as endgame approaches. It certainly does live up to its reputation as one of the best Chinese dramas out there.

Leia Mais

My first 10/10!

I'm a relatively-seasoned Asian drama watcher and this is my first 10/10. Even other titles that I've loved and obsessed over haven't gotten ratings this high. I scored rewatch value a little lower as I don't know honestly how much I will want to rewatch it, but it's otherwise really perfect. I won't go on and on on why because there are plenty of other reviews that do just that.

My only tiny gripe which isn't enough to even really knock off any points for? Minor spoilers below:

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I don't know how much the things with the Hua people mattered. I think it did add a layer of shock to Prince Yu and Xia Jiang's ties and added a layer of complexity to motives, but it kinda fizzled out. I'm also a little perplexed on why they started hinting at the Princess Consort (Prince Jing's new wife chosen in the last few episodes) was treated with suspicion but in the last second, Surprise! She's on the good side. Ok that's all it amounted to.

Leia Mais

Top Notch Tale of Revenge

This was my first ever Chinese drama and I have been re-watching it at least once a year ever since. It never gets old. In fact, I just finished another rewatch and wanted to convey how much I love this drama. It is #1 on my greatest of all-time list. The acting of main cast and supporting cast are superb. There really is no weak link in the acting department. The bad guys are really good at being bad guys and the heroes are great at being heroes, especially Hu Ge, who plays brilliant strategist Mei Changsu with a vulnerability that you cannot help but root for. Every one of his subordinates and friends would die for him to help him fulfill his plans. And I as viewer feel the same way! It's fascinating to see how all his precise and carefully made plans came to fruition one by one. The plot keeps building up the more episodes you watch. The romance of Mei Changsu and Ni Huang is heartbreaking, but so are all the amazing friendships as well. The introduction song is poignant, I never skip it when watching and the songs from all 3 leads are amazing! If you start watching this drama, I guarantee you will also re-watch every year! It is just that good!

Leia Mais

The Best

I always stick to kdrama because it's relatable and I have gotten accustomed to the language but I decided to try chinese drama, I watched a few and it was not that great and I was starting to think mmm... chinese drama wasn't worth the change, the Nirvana in fire 1 happened. After I was done watching I told my parents and friends that they need to see this drama... Yes it's that good
The story, the backstory, the cast ,the custom, the beginning, the end... I loved everything about it. We have the main lead Mei chang su who is going into battle with his arsenal fully prepared , a strategy like no other , oppositions he knows how to defeat before the battle start and allies he can depend on until the very end. This story isn't just about getting revenge for his dead families and soldiers, it's about setting wrongs Right. He could get revenge without him coming into their political world but he wants to set what as been wrong which is pased as right, Right (I don't know if that made sense).

Leia Mais

This is the first time i write a review here in dramalist. and ive seen lot of drama before, especially kingdom drama like fire in nirvana. This drama is so good especially the plot and the way the story is told. for everyone who hasnt watch the show, please be patient if you want to start to watch it. this is the kind of drama that you need to figure out what is the connection between the character, you need to be involved into the story and then you will get the explanation later. this is very hard movie to watch at first (at least until ep 7). i failed to watch it twice and i regret it, that im not watch it sooner. anyway, if you need good drama, good acting, good story, good ending this is drama that you need to watch. i dare to put it on my number one list of good kingdom drama above six flying dragon, jewel in the palace or emperor qi. a very good drama.

Leia Mais

This was a phenomenon drama, really one of a kind. The casting was out of this world, the acting was just at another level, the soundtrack was amazing and it paired well with each of the scenes. This would be one of those dramas that I can watch over and over again. The storyline was epic and it was intriguing to follow through. There were so many parts of it that I couldn't help but cry for the main character and Hu Ge was just amazing in his performance. I fell in love with this series immediately and with each passing episode, I fell more in love each time.

Leia Mais

This story was brilliantly told if not portrayed. I loved everything about this drama and finished it less than a week.

The cast was outstanding and well-balanced. When emotions were to be conveyed they did such a wonderful job doing it that it would pull at the hardest heart strings of any viewer.
Mei Changsu planning was meticulous and his way of delving out justice was eye-opening as his agenda wasn't about getting revenge but making things right.

The bromance in this is by far the best I've ever seen...and I've watched a hell of a lot of dramas.

The reason I took off a half a point is because this is really like story-telling, there are some scenes I would have wished to have seen, but instead it was explained away instead.

I would recommend this to anyone who loves a good bromance, know what you getting into by reading the synopsis and okay with crying a few tears.

Leia Mais

The Poetic Genius

The origin of Nirvana in Fire is the book "Lang Ya Bang" by Hai Yan.
The author is also the scriptwriter, which is one of the reasons why the script is so thorough and in the vein of the novel.

Nirvana In Fire is a fictional story with the historical background of the North and South Dynasty period. It uses the massacre of 70,000 soldiers ordered by Emperor Xiaoxuan Liang as the basis for the story. From this massacre, General Lin Shu survives and for 12 years he refines a strategy to re-establish the truth about the reasons for the massacre.
A strategy planned from every angle. Anticipated for any unforeseen event, even if, as Mei Chang Su, the name with which he came back from the dead, says himself, no strategy is infallible.
The plot is superbly orchestrated, we are dealing with a clever character who has created a spider's web to draw each victim into.
More than a chess game, Nirvana in Fire is a hunt brilliantly led by Mei Chang Su. Manipulation from A to Z mastered with a genius rarely achieved. It may seem boring to think, well we know he's going to be the winner and who the bad guys are. But no, the beauty of this drama lies in its simplicity, we already know the endgame and yet we watch in wonder as the villains get caught up in the spider's web little by little because it's the path to get there that is captivating. Everything in this drama is finely tuned, the outcome of each attack is skilfully revealed, neither too fast nor too slow. We know the why but not the how because it's not so easy to guess in advance what's going through Mei Chang Su's head.
I have never seen a character as charismatic, relentless and formidable as Mei Chang Su. An intelligence in the service of good that marries wonderfully with his goodness and his purity of heart. He is the definition of the hero, the one who goes to the end of his mission in spite of a body that fails him, in spite of the adversaries to be put down and allies to be sacrificed.

Beyond the political strategy, Nirvana in Fire is also about LOYALTY, the LOYALTY that the fellow pugilists have towards Mei Chang Su, the LOYALTY that Prince Jing has towards Lin Shu even beyond death.
I loved the intense friendship between Mei Chang Su and Prince Jing, which started out suspicious and became solid long before the Prince discovered the truth.

If the ending isn't a surprise, I don't regret this incredible journey. The strength of this drama lies in the relational chemistry between each character from the most important to the minor role.

If I have only one drama to recommend, even if you don't like political conspiracies, even if you don't like historical dramas, even if you have preconceived ideas about Chinese dramas, I would say, this one is worth seeing over and over again.

Leia Mais

Not quite perfect, but not far, either.

My first foray into Asian dramas and I wasn't disappointed! It's an epic 100% worth the time and among the greatest of all time television series (including western TV). Costuming is so perfect you'll want to cry and the cast's acting and chemistry is unparalleled in anything I've seen before. Pacing is good and there is little filler, and I appreciate that a lot of things, sometimes huge things, happen unceremoniously offscreen. The show only rarely pontificates, repeats, or overexplains things; in other words, it doesn't treat the viewer like an idiot who can't keep up.

However, not knowing who Liu Tao was meant that I largely went "so what" over what little romance there was; what few scenes there were were out of place, not well written, and seemed to rely largely on her star power. Zzz.

I also wish there had been more intimate (platonic) scenes and between Su and Jing. I don't feel like their brotherhood was really given the time it deserved. Some flashbacks would have also helped illustrate just how deep their bond ran... because otherwise, we are just supposed to trust the things coming out of their mouths.

Chinese censorship is also felt through the lack of dimensionality - in Game of Thrones, you have several factions, some of whom have justified claims, and all of whom have their own (usually competing) interests. How those interests resolve is what made GOT so fun to watch, and its morally gray characters were some of the best characters in the series. By comparison, Nirvana in Fire just feels like it's lacking dynamism and, in the end, is very much just a "good guys vs bad guys" kind of show, which was a bit of a letdown to me.

All in all, it's a great show, definitely worth watching the entire 54 episodes at least once. However, I don't know that I personally will be rewatching it in its entirety, namely because while I loved many of the characters, the main protagonist and his shallow relationships left me with an apathetic feeling about the supposedly bittersweet events taking place. I'll likely go back and rewatch only a handful of episodes, particularly the ones around the spring hunt.

Leia Mais

binging this when i'm sick in the first week of new year with exams going on was not the best idea. a couple of boxes of tissues comes in handy because oh wow was this rollercoaster both emotional and iNTENSE.

it took me 5 tries to get into this drama because i'm an absolute clown listening to political talks. the first 3 or 4 episodes can be overwhelming with the amount of information bombarded at your face. on top of that, you have character names to remember. basically, you literally need to have an open mind like literally open your brain, have it turned on and make it function because you never know what impact those characters have on the story.

the charming points that caught my eye is ma boi sir su, ma girl princess nihuang, relatable meng zi, babie boi fei lu and hella fine prince jing.
ma boi sir su is such an admirable character that doesn't fail to interest me. he had everything planned to attain justice not for himself but for the many who had their reputations smudged by false facts that were made to be known for many years. he is not careless to make a single misstep and where there is one, he is quick to resolve the problem.

while the ending was emotional, i didn't feel like it was that climatic. what i do like is it leaves room for questions and makes me eager to watch season 2.

p.s. A+ for the beautiful ost, the pigeon and yes to the tangerines

Leia Mais