Hidden Agenda (2023)

Weak start, strong half-time, weak ending

No spoilers:
Overall, this show convinced me because of Zo's character and how the script only revealed his backstory bit by bit, making me want to re-watch the show at least once. Where the show almost lost me was at the very slow beginning and the convoluted end. In retrospective, only episodes 3-9 grabbed my attention, either because the relationship was still developing or struggling. Another thing I liked was the second couple, as they felt enriching to the story and also had an interesting plot. However, one of the main parts (?) of the story – the debating club – I think could've been used more effectively and didn't feel as important as it was supposed to be. For me, the topics they debated were too fictional to take them seriously.

Acting-wise, I do feel like Joong and Dunk improved from Star in My Mind. Especially, Dunk portrayed Zo's nervousness perfectly with his physical responses to Joke's advances. I'm certain that some scenes/situations helped bring across these emotions because it was also their first time shooting scenes like this. However, I see the need for both of them to act separately from each other, so that they can learn from other situations, plots, and more experienced actors. Of course, I want to see them again together in a series, but then it must be outside the uni-context and maybe in another genre – be it action, thriller, more mature or full on rom-com where you sit on the other side of the screen laughing so hard you have to cry.

Let's talk directing-style: I think in the special episode that aired before Hidden Agenda was released it was mentioned that this was the first or one of the first bigger projects for the director and I think you can feel that. Sometimes I felt lost as to how much time has passed (especially episode 7). I was missing transitional-shots or something that gave a clue as to where and when we are in the scene. Also, I'm not a huge fan of this very milky background we got most of the time (again, episode 7) – at some point it felt over-used. It could've had a better/bigger impact I think if it would've been used more sparingly. Additionally, the music often felt quite random. Maybe a bigger selection would've made the job easier and could've improved to convey certain feelings in some scenes.

Spoilers included:
That Zo is a pan- or bisexual character came to me as a pleasant surprise because I read his behaviour when he realized his feelings for Joke as i'm-getting-to-know-my-sexuality kinda thing. As it turns out, however, this was only him dealing with the trauma experienced back when he was a kid, and he had feelings for a boy for the first time. So, now the first 7 episodes change their meaning – at least for me. And I love that we don't have this i'm-getting-to-terms-with-my-sexuality-trope, but rather deal with how-can-I-overcome-this-trauma.
What I also admire about Zo is that he stays true to his principles. He communicates very clear and doesn't make any distinction between classmate, friends, or boyfriend. A few examples: As soon as he figured out his feelings for Joke, he acts on them (the kiss in episode 4). Next he goes to Nita because he realized the difference in his romantic feelings towards Joke and his feelings of admiration towards Nita. When Joke is again pushy with the food, and he gets into a fight with one of Zo's friends, Zo ends the fight and takes Joke with him to tell him off in a mature way. And of course when Joke's hidden agenda gets revealed, and he doesn't apologize correctly, Zo doesn't get weak and waits for Joke to come to his senses and (hopefully) learn from his mistake. Now of course Zo is not perfect as I don't like the silent-treatment he's giving Joke, but again, no person is perfect, and I love it that we see more characters like that.
Joke being the green-flag and supportive boyfriend was a great watch. Even though he really frustrated me in episode 9 when it took him the entire episode to realize what he did wrong – but I'm here for it. What I admire about Joke was his consistent reassurance he gave Zo about his feelings for him. He tried to not pressure Zo which I think is important to show more in BL as there are too many storylines out there where pressure is romanticized. I think we saw the peak of it in episode 8 where we got the super hyped NC scene.
While Zo and Joke were the example for good communication, I feel like the second couple, Jeng and Pok, showed us what happens when you don't communicate your thoughts and feelings honestly. However, their conflict also got resolved in a mature way where Jeng realized how his behaviour hurt his boyfriend, and Pok learned that he needed to communicate his feelings better for Jeng to be able to act on them.
Now the last two episodes felt really out of place, I think that's because Hidden Agenda was originally supposed to run only for 10 instead of 12 episodes? Anyhow, the end felt convoluted and rushed because they squeezed in Joke's family drama and another quarrel between Zo and Joke. It's possible, that if it had been 12 episodes from the beginning they could've built up the Joke situation way better. Now, his family-situation was used to explain Zo's misunderstanding with his mom – a classic “don't tell but show”-situation where the time ran out to show rather than tell what just happened. Because without Zo's explanation, I don't think I would've got his isolation in episode 12. In the end I would've been more happy with just 10 episodes because after episode 9 I didn't feel as excited anymore to wait for each episode.

Leia Mais

Definitely one of the better 2023 BLs

I’ve watched quite a lot of BLs over the past 2 years but this the very first one I feel to add my review on line. I always read the reviews and for this series they were a bit unfair and a total of 7.3 is definitely to low, as the performance is quite above average but maybe not the best of the year.

JoonDunk have good chemistry and this shows throughout the episodes. Still today most of the BLs are too shy with a kiss but not here, those scenes were properly done I liked the sunflower popping up as it reminds of “star in my mind”. The characters are evolving and although the hidden agenda concept is watered down after 3 or 4 episodes other elements are build in like the stalking of Nina and onwards of the main leads. Also both face parents where they have great expectation from their children and the pressure it puts on them. The comments on Dunk’s acting are too strong, don’t forget he plays the role of a guy with low self-esteem who’s looking for himself.

It was also good to see other BL stars popping up from various other BL series.

And so in conclusion, give the show a chance. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course.

Leia Mais

Ricordo ancora la sensazione avuta quando guardai il primo trailer, ero troppo emozionata per l’uscita di questa serie ed era una di quelle che aspettavo di più fra tutte.
Inutile dire che su questo aspetto sono rimasta un pò delusa.
Mi spiego, la trama parla solo del fatto che Zo è innamorato di Nita e quindi chiede aiuto a Joke, l’ex di Nita, di aiutarlo a conquistarla ma con il tempo le cose tra Zo e Joke cambiano.
Questa è la trama e sia il primo trailer che il secondo sembrano essere totalmente incentrati su questa dinamica, purtroppo nella serie in sé la cosa non va come si pensa, quella che sembra essere la trama che coprirà l’intera storia viene iniziata e finita in due/tre episodi, inutile dire che sta cosa mi ha letteralmente sfracassato le palle. La storia dei primi episodi era così carina, anche se un pò noiosa poteva essere facilamente aggiustata e portata avanti, potevano essere aggiunte molte scene in cui succedevano delle situazioni mentre Zo cercava di conquistare Nita grazie a Joke, invece hanno fatto quelle poche scene e in pochissimi episodi hanno concluso tutto; letteralmente Zo ha capito di non essere innamorato di Nita al PRIMO fottuto appuntamento con lei, ci ha messo mezzo secondo per capirlo ma boom pur sapendo i suoi sentimenti per Joke ci ha messo tutto il suo cervello per capirsi meglio.
Sinceramente il modo in cui hanno gestito sta cosa mi ha fatto impazzire (in senso negativo) perché avrebbero potuto portare avanti la cosa del cercare di conquistare Nita con i vari accenni a lui che si sta innamorando di Joke per poi buttarci il momento definitivo in cui capisce che nei confronti di Nita aveva solo molto rispetto e l’ammirava. Personalmente penso che così sarebbe stato decisamente meglio, anche perchè mi ricordo troppo sta scena del primo trailer dove a na certa Joke chiede a Zo se sa baciare e poi “glielo dimostra”, oltre al fatto che sta scena fece impazzire tutti, la trovo anche come un punto determinante per Zo nel capire i suoi sentimenti, sarebbe stato veramente bello se avessero allungato la fase iniziale e aggiunto questa scena. Hanno sfruttato malissimo una trama molto particolare, da questo punto di vista sono delusa, pare che non si sono impegnati.
Quindi alla fine aggiungendo la cosa dello staker, i litigi, il club, il premio e i problemi familiari, sono finiti per non centrare la storia di base facendo diventare la serie tutt’altro di quello che si può pensare leggendo la trama o guardando il trailer.

Una delle cose che poi più mi stanno a cuore e di cui sono stata delusissima sono Jeng e Pok. Quando vidi il primo trailer PIANSI nel vedere Aou e Boom come coppia, ero la persona più felice del mondo in quanto ho desiderato tantissimo vederli assieme sin da quando li ho visti in vice-versa. Poi ho letteralmente amato come nel primo trailer li abbiano fatti vedere tutti uniti che si tenevano per la mano parlando di matrimonio egualitario e dicendo liberamente di amarsi….ecco…nella serie questo è stato trasformato DRASTICAMENTE, nell’opposto. Da quello che ho scritto prima sono invece diventati una coppia segreta e problematica. Sinceramente ho amato Pok sin dall’inizio e mi dispiaceva per lui perchè si vedeva tale e quale che proprio per amore ed empatia stava cercando di adattarsi a quello che voleva Jeng, ossia di tenere la relazione ultra segreta, come se non si conoscessero.
Da una parte lo voglio pure capire a Jeng ma cazzo quanto mi ha fatto salire i nervi quando all’open day la ragazzina ha chiesto "Sei single?" e lui stronzo ha detto pure di sì e gli ha dato l’insta, lì mi è partito il nervoso perchè capisco tutto quello che vuoi ma cazzo questa ragazzina molto probabilmente manco la rivedrai più e te ti fai il problema di non far capire che sei fidanzato con un ragazzo. Che poi anche se glielo avessi detto, non significa dire che stai con un ragazzo, in sti casi dici che sei occupato e basta, mica con chi! Quindi nulla per me assurdo, dopo tutto quello che Pok ha fatto per lui, Jeng si permette pure di fare lo stronzo in sta maniera, veramente io senza parole, assurdo.
Quando Pok ha FINALMENTE capito che doveva mettere i paletti e che non meritava di essere trattato così, ho goduto. Devo dire che a Jeng l’ha spaventato a morte quando stava facendo le valige perchè sennò non si spiega il suo cambiamento DRASTICO. Così dal nulla ha detto che era fidanzato e si è comportato in maniera decisamente più aperta e mi ha fatto piacere ma doveva accorgersene prima che Pok facesse quella scenata, come si è permesso di trattarlo così fino ad allora. Quindi veramente io li amo ma cazzo quanti problemi indesiderati, nel primo trailer erano decisamente meglio e mi sarebbe piaciuto vedere almeno per una volta una coppia felicemente aperta sul loro amore. Peccato.

Riguardo Zo e Joke non so che dire, seria. Loro amori miei ma bho sarò io ma non ho sentito nulla di speciale nella loro storia. Per non parlare di come Zo sia descritto come quello che pensa sempre agli altri ma poi ha gli atteggiamenti più egoistici che abbia mai visto, molte volte mi ha scazzato che pensasse solo a quello che provava lui respingendo Joke che porello voleva aiutarlo a stare meglio o comunque a capire se stesso. Infatti la maggior parte dei litigi li ho trovati parecchio inutili bho potevano essere evitati se solo avessero ragionato meglio. In ogni caso mi sono piaciuti lo stesso.

Riguardo la questione famiglia non credo di essere la persona giusta per commentare tali dinamiche perchè sono molto rancorosa. Dopo tutto quello che hanno fatto e detto i loro genitori per tutta la loro vita, segnandoli in maniera irreversibile...te mi stai a dire che Zo e Joke hanno veramente accettato le loro scuse? Lo hanno fatto ma bho personalmente non ci sarei mai riuscita. Con tutto l’amore del mondo ma cazzo se voi genitori non vi preoccupate a crescere in maniera opportuna i vostri figli, non vi preoccupate di niente se non di voi stessi, che volete? Sinceramente adulti come sono in quel momento era decisamente troppo tardi per capire ciò che hanno fatto e chiedere scusa. Hanno prima rovinato gli anni “migliori” (messo tra parentesi perchè per me sono i peggiori ma così vengono comunemente chiamati) della loro vita e adesso vogliono perdono? Io veramente non ci sarei riuscita anche perchè bho sarò io ma ho provato disagio nel vedere il padre di Joke volere un abbraccio, dopo tutto quello che ha fatto l’abbraccio è la cosa più inutile che potesse fare, al posto di Joke mi sarei sentita a disagio nell'avere un gesto di affetto dopo tutto quello che gli ha fatto passare. Come già ho detto sono troppo rancorosa per commentare ste cose quindi nulla ognuno la veda come vuole.

In generale “Hidden Agenda” è un misto tra delusione e…..delusione. Sono seria. Mi sarei aspettata che questa trama fosse sfruttata meglio e bho personalmente non ho sentito nulla di speciale. Il tutto però è stato piacevole da vedere quindi lo
consiglio.

+sinceramente amerei se facessero tipo uno spin-off (non so se si chiama così ) della storia di Pok e Jeng. Se facessero una serie incentrata su di loro e le dinamiche della loro coppia sarebbe veramente interessante poi sinceramente amo Aou e Boom quindi sì li voglio protagonisti.

Leia Mais

Star in Your Mind pt. 2

The first teaser for the series was exciting. I really liked how the vibe and the characters seemed different from those in Star in Your Mind. I was excited about it and was really looking forward to seeing Joong and Dunk in something a bit more angsty. And then the second trailer dropped. And then the series. And all my hopes went down the drain.

The plot ended up being kind of messy and confusing with quite a few plot holes and inconsistencies. There was no reasoning behind a lot of the things, including some very crucial aspects – like why Joke likes Zo. They just went from arguing to Joke looking at Zo with hearts in his eyes. I was expecting the whole Joke – Nita – Zo triangle to take longer to both develop and solve, especially as it was shown as the biggest part of the plot in the trailer. And yet it was done and over so soon. The whole idea of the hidden agenda was also not explored enough. It was hinted at and glossed over so quickly, it’s like it has never happened. Generally speaking, problems were not given enough time to properly develop and to have some sort of reasoning behind them.

And as much as I hate to do this, the whole series felt like Star in Your Mind part two or an alternative universe version of it. Not only did the characters played by Joong and Dunk appear to be pretty much the same in both series, but there was also the whole thing with Joong’s characters having a (ex)girlfriend and pinning after Dunk’s character. I found the series to be quite boring most of the time. It was just Joong and Dunk being cute. It was sweet the first time we saw it, the second time around was just boring.

Don’t get me started on the debates. It’s like they have done no research on how a debate actually goes. I tried to see if this is the Thai structure, but I couldn’t find anything online. But I can tell you that it is definitely not the NOVA structure of a debate. I have seen my fair share of debates in real life (even participated in one or two), and the Hidden Agenda version of a debate is very far from the reality of it.

Joke & Zo: they were cute together; I’ll give them that. Joke appears to be more closed off and quite awkward at times. His relationship with family seems to be quite strained as well, but it’s not really explained why. It just is. Zo also has a strained relationship with his mom, but that is something that is addressed in the series. And it makes sense. Zo seems to be kind of naïve at times, but there is more to him than that. The way their relationship happens, and progresses is very strange. It goes from nothing to everything very quickly. Almost too quickly. I have already mentioned how Joke’s feelings for Zo are never really explained. At least Zo’s feelings make sense. And while the two of them talk about some important things – yay for communication and setting boundaries – they also tend to either forget or ignore what they talked about. Joong and Dunk have great chemistry, there was definitely a lot of improvement when it comes to their kissing scenes. But there is something about Dunk’s acting that just doesn’t sit right with me. I don’t know what it is exactly, but it just feels off at times

Jeng & Pok: I like the fact that they were an already established couple dealing with realistic problems. Pok is such a cutie! He might seem adorable and naïve only, but he can be very mature and can stand up for himself when it’s needed. Jeng is struggling with who he is and who he shows to others, he fears rejection and judgment from his friends. And that is something that leads to a lot of tension between the two. Aou and Boom both did great and had an amazing chemistry. I wish we could have seen more of them.

Leia Mais

Felt like I was watching Star in My Mind 2

but with much better communication between Joke and Zo. At least they're problems they were able to fix quicker by actually talking to each other unlike Kluen and Dao. Still the story is basically the same: two college students, one has a one side crush on the other at first, there's a girl heavily involved: rinse, recycle, repeat. I only liked it a little more than SIMM because the characters are way more mature emotionally, esp Joke. At least in this one I didn't want to tear my hair out with any arguments the characters may have had etc. Other than that, it's essentially the same story. Dunk's acting is still stiff, and I still have to feel any chemistry between JoongDunk that's not forced. I hate those forced, cliche, chemistry moments and there was ton here. As for rewatch value: I'll probably rewatch when I'm bored or don't have anything else to watch.

Leia Mais

not for the lovers of dramatics

probably my most controversial review, but the story has minimal drama, and that seems to be everyone’s issue with it. I personally enjoyed not having to deal with unnecessary love triangles, second leads, bullying, overly dramatic breakdowns, and miscommunication. in fact, there is so much communication between the leads that it doesn’t fall into the “2 episodes to fix this” trope and I wholeheartedly enjoyed that things were addressed head-on.

joke and zo display maturity and growth spectacularly. and even with the few instances where dunk’s acting fell a bit short, he pulled through with his role overall.

if anything, the constant complaints I’ve seen only show that gmmtv are not supporting them as they should. dunk has the potential, he simply isn’t having faith and resources put into him. time also seems to be a foreign concept to gmmtv, as this feels like they rushed everyone to finish. finally, a reminder that dunk is still relatively new. joong has been in this industry for a while now and reprised quite a few roles so it is unfair to compare them. give dunk time.

the only thing I did not like was the ending. joke deserved more than just that dinner scene. his father was absolutely vile and it felt like most of that was cut/rearranged to make it a quick reconciliation.

also, pok and jeng were incredible to see. everyone gets so lost in tearing this down that it seems everyone forgets them. seeing a more raw and realistic coming out gave this show more layers. aou and boom did an amazing job, their scenes brought so many emotions. genuinely would love to see them take on lead roles now.

I don’t know what exactly the complaints are on about, as I found this to be one of the best series I watched as it released. hoping we get more of everyone in this show, they all worked so well together.

Leia Mais

Surprisingly well written!

Surprisingly, this is a smartly written, well defined adult-themed BL that unfolds from an infatuation to quite literally life partners. I was impressed with how well this series evolved and told a full and complete story. Sure, it had a lot of bumps along the way, and tended to be too much of a Soap Opera in places, but it had heart and grit and frankly never lost its way. It is one of the most solid BLs from Thailand to come along in quite a while. In the end, however, the story did something rarely seen in BLs and almost never in Thai ones. It had a graceful ending eluding to the notion that they were and remain a couple still deeply in love and still happy to be so. They are life partners, if not soulmates in every sense of that term.
You can read my full review of this pretty good series at BLBliss.com.

Leia Mais

TRUST ME IT GETS BETTER!!!!

Honestly I stopped watching during the second episode and didn’t pick it up for a while. I was so excited about joongdunk because I love them so much but felt something lacking at first. I get its easy to drop but take this from someone who also was on the verge of dropping DONT! When I picked it back up episode three and on became smooth sailing. Eventually you will start to see scenes that just feel like joongdunk and not them “acting.”
Honestly dunk has improved his acting but it’s true he still feels a bit stiff but his chemistry with joong kinda camouflages his lack of acting. And GWORL you will be squealing, kicking your feet and giggling very soon! Episode 7 part 4 is all I’m GONNA SAY! Joong as always shines so bright with his acting and the way he portrays his character joke is well done!
Give it some time and don’t completely write it off!
Joongdunk have so much natural chemistry off set and you can see it in hidden agenda a lot in many scenes as it seeps into the show!
You can really see how much more comfortable they’ve gotten with each other. Like pondphuwin when they did their first project together phuwins kiss scene felt awkward much like dunk in his kiss scenes but baby did they change that real soon! Joong has always seemed natural when kissing his on screen partner and dunk felt awkward and not confident but girl did he show us all wrong in Hidden Agenda!
ALSO WATCH IT FOR AUOBOOM!!!! Their chemistry is insane and natural and they need their own series!

Leia Mais

Finally a 2023 Thai series that gives me butterflies :)

I have developed a complete love for this series and both men since the end of ep 2. This episode gave me so many sweet, warm fuzzies, and I am so grateful I came across this gem from Thailand! I had lost a lot of hope for Thai series this year, but this show is wonderful and I plan to shout that from the digital rooftops!!!! I just finished episode 4 and am so eager for episode 5. No, the storyline is not very original, but it is well done and I think the actors are doing a great job so far....does it help that I find both leads super gorgeous...yes, but that doesn't take away from the fact that this is the first Thai show this year that I haven't had to force myself to sit distractedly through an episode and that I am 1000% rewatching! It's honey-sweet and the pacing is phenomenal thus far. The music is lovely and fits the story better than average too. I want to say this will be one of my top ten from Thailand, but there are 6 episodes to go, and I don't want to jinx it. Right now, I am loving this show and all the butterflies it started giving in ep3 and that are still there through ep 4.

Leia Mais

I do not know what other's are talking about

This was a great show. Honestly, it was simple, pacing was good, story line was straightforward, everything was suggested early enough to address later. This isn't a complicated show and that may be why I've seen so many negative reviews. One person said that star in my mind was better but that show brought an abuse plot and brushed over it and their conflict continued on until the last two episodes. Dunk's acting isn't perfect but he definitely improved and he made me feel the same nerves that his character felt during many scenes in the show. He played the "trying his best" character really well even if it wasn't always perfect. I can't criticize the bobble head comment because I know people in real life that move like that, so it genuinely didn't bother me. Joong's acting was perfect, their chemistry was so natural and it's one of the best potrayals of a dating couple I've seen in a show. The puppy love, the progression, the nerves, the true love (which joong nailed, he was acting incredible from face to body). And it's not fair to compare them to other high quality shows because a lot of those had the romance as the side plot and a bigger plot occurring. This show's main plot IS the romance and the obstacles they face during its progression. Joke explains he developed a crush on Zo because he was the first person to ask what he wants and respect it which made sense when we see how neglected he felt by his parents. Zo is the textbook nerdy boy with his walls up because his mom was strict and his friend lead him on and ridiculed him in the process. The debate club wasn't even that in your face but that was explained because Zo wanted to make his mom proud. They argued when they needed when Zo or Joke were being a unreasonable. The stalker story was explained to be occurring from years before and which didn't need to take up more time than it did and resolved in the most rational way you can instead of brushed over. The parents' effects on the boys were implied from the beginning and then things occurred for them to get closer (Zo's dad in the hospital, and Zo telling Joke's dad that he realized life is too short for him to mince his words and he should tell his son how he really feels). And the biggest criticism I've seen is the hidden agenda. One, the author can name the title whatever it may be, it really is not that serious but MOST IMPORTANTLY, Zo was absolutely valid in his hurt. Zo and Joke put so much importance in honesty and communication and it was mentioned SO MANY times so finding out he came to Zo with hidden intentions definitely made sense in the grand scheme of things especially after his past friend lied to his face and shut him down when Zo confessed. Zo was always upfront with Joke even with the Nita situation. And if someone were to find out that your partner lied to you, especially after being confronted, it makes you wonder what else they may be lying about. It wasn't stretched out too long either, Joke tried to make amends his way and then apologized and Zo stated all he was looking for was an apology. Everything was fleshed out as well as it can be for a cute show like this, so it makes me wonder if other critics and I were even watching the same show. I understand if this might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it felt that some of the critiques were not coming from a fair place. Not everything needs to be shown to be understood and they utilized their 12 episodes really well. There were some lagging moments in two episodes but not enough to turn me off. The side couple were there and cute and did not take too much time but enough to get their story across. There were honestly only about 1.5 NC scenes and the couple others were just kiss scenes and their chemistry was so natural and beautiful, I genuinely believed I was watching two people in love. If the show was as bad as people make it out to be then they deserve a chance to move up from here especially with how many veteran actors have been in worse shows and now are great in their craft. But my final thoughts, I truly thought every aspect of this show was amazing and the dynamics were natural. Watching it from the pov that this is a romance focused or almost slice of life type of drama, it hit the mark and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Leia Mais